• macaroni1556@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    It also says you can’t change the system from inside. This article is about that. I think that’s proven by themselves.

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      There are certainly cases where internal reform attempts fail. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I see ACAB as a counsel of despair- it’s basically saying that it is intrinsically impossible for the rule of law to to be maintained in a fair, equitable and humane way.

      I don’t expect to change anyone’s minds. I’m just explaining why I dislike it.

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        1 year ago

        I see ACAB as a counsel of despair

        And you also see windmills as giants, but that doesnt make you correct, or compelling.

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          I mean, I didn’t expect to change your mind. But I suppose I should ask - what kind of organisation do you favour to handle law enforcement?

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            1 year ago

            Do you think the goal of ACAB style movements is “kill everyone who is a cop, change nothing, and the world is saved”?

            Or are you capable of grasping nuance?

            Because Im not going to waste my time explaining anything to the former, which you seem adamant to demonstrate you are.

            So which are you?

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              Do you think the goal of ACAB style movements is “kill everyone who is a cop, change nothing, and the world is saved”?

              That wasn’t my first thought, no.

              But to be honest, I don’t think I’d waste my time if I were you - I don’t think you’re particularly interested in a conversation, and you’ve apparently made up your mind what kind of person I am, so best to move on.

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                I have your comments in the thread advocating what kind of person you are.

                And, based on those comments, thats exactly what your first thought was upon hearing the phrase.

                Are you upset I took you at your word? Go cry at the foot of a windmill then, don.

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                  If you can point me to any of my comments that indicated, I thought that ‘ACAB’ involved “killing cops” feell free. But you can’t. You’re not really interested in a good-faith discussion, which is why the conversation is a waste of time.

                  My problem with the slogan ‘All cops are bastards’ is that it simply states all cops are bastards.

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                    1 year ago

                    Jesus you really are as stupid as you say you are