• 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    “Those false positives could be somebody trying to get to the hospital for an emergency.”

    If you need to go to the hospital for an emergency call an ambulance and don’t use it as an excuse for driving while drunk.

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      11 months ago

      This is the USA. If you call the ambulance you need to take out a new mortgage on your house.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah no problem, I’ll just pony up $4000 because I drank a single beer at the wrong time . Why are people like you like this? You literally cannot imagine a scenario you haven’t experienced and you express that lack of imagination by accusing anyone with imagination of being up to no good.

      Seriously STFU

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      11 months ago

      in that quote from the article, the hypothetical (and eventually, very real) victim of a false positive from less than absolute 100% accuracy is not a drunk.

      “If it’s [only] 99.9% accurate, you could have a million false positives,” Carlson said. “Those false positives could be somebody trying to get to the hospital for an emergency.”

      and ‘ambulance-worthy’ emergencies are not the only critical and potentially life-saving trips that could be affected by a false-positive. how about the doctor who would treat that person in the ER, or a volunteer firefighter responding to a call, or a parent going to fetch their teen after they call for a ride from an unsafe situation…

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            11 months ago

            I heard about it. Is it really that bad? Preferring to drive to the hospital on your own in case of an emergency instead of calling an ambulance sounds really wild.

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              11 months ago

              Could you drop 4000+ on a mile car ride?

              I have only used an ambulance once but it was for a friend and I who got into a car wreck. It set us back close to 10k thankfully it was covered by insurance.

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                  11 months ago

                  And now you get it.

                  Here in the US, many of us have standing orders to NEVER call an ambulance, and be driven by a friend instead. If it’s really bad, we’ll be paying $10,000+ in medical bills already (assuming we have insurance, if not it’ll probably be closer to $1 mil). We just can’t afford to tack on an extra few thousand. And if it wasn’t bad after all, we definitely don’t want to pay an extra few thousand.

                  And heaven forbid you have to use Life Flight.

                  Plus, our ambulances are staffed by people paid just slightly above minimum wage, with no medical degree and only cursory medical training. To be fair, it’s better than most medical training (ie what police and firefighters get) but it’s still no doctorate.

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              11 months ago

              100%.

              Preferring to drive to the hospital on your own in case of an emergency instead of calling an ambulance sounds really wild.

              It is.

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      11 months ago

      I camp and hike and such in some very rural, mountainous areas pretty regularly, cell service is often very spotty in those places. I know one place off the top of my head that I’ve been to a few times that I’d have to drive a few minutes away to get a signal.

      Off the top of my head, one way around this might be to pair the alcohol sensor with a cellular connection that can call 911, if the car has a signal then the alcohol sensor is required, if it doesn’t then the sensor is deactivated. You could also probably have better cellular equipment built into a car than a phone since you don’t have to make compromises to keep everything pocket-sized, so you could potentially have more of a signal in more places by calling from your car than you would with your phone.