One month after finance ministers met to discuss the Alberta government’s intent to pull out of the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) public opinion polling by the Angus Reid Institute suggests there’s little desire among Albertans or the rest of Canada to see Alberta leave the plan.

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          I’m sorry for my neighbors. People out here are more interested in punishing Trudeau than they are in improving their own lives

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            I see so many F🍁ck Trudeau stickers on trucks. How does a person make their personality about hating on someone? It makes no sense.

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            they’re more interested in punishing his father, but will settle for trying to make JT’s life miserable by proxy.

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          Oh yeah, my mother was pushed down the internet conspiracy theory rabbit hole by her idiot boyfriend over the course of the pandemic. Their latest dumbass move to was to relocate to Alberta because the political climate more closely aligned with their beliefs. Given that my mother is chronically ill, and it had taken years for her to find good specialists, I will not be surprised when I get the call that she’s died early because her disease isn’t being properly managed.

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            My bro is in a similar state, but not for conspiracy reasons.

            I’m finding it challenging watching for a glimmer of reason or otherwise waiting for inevitable calamity. I figure as long as he’s cursing me out, he’s still good.

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              Yeah, I had to cut Mom off long before her move… The constant stream of agitated nonsense was corrosive to my mental health. I kept lying awake at night, trying to figure out how to battle the onslaught of total bullshit from Facebook and the far-far-right blogs that her boyfriend kept feeding her… In the end I figured that I couldn’t defend against the entire internet and some dickhead who lived with her 24x7x365, so I walked away.

              There’s only two scenarios I can envision – I get the call that she’s been hospitalized and to come get her, or I somehow find out she’s died. I’m not sure how I’ll deal with either, but I’ll know that she did it to herself by believing the bullshit over her last living relative.

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      see also: insurance caps, mining, abandoned wells, etc etc. Some company (via a rich guy) says we need to do (or not do) this? On it! Actual human people say we need to do something? WOKE LEFTY LIBERAL TEARS!

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    This is going to be the model for elections from now on.

    Anger the population into electing an extremist party … convince the people to elect the extremist party … then after the election everyone wonders why the extremist party is doing extreme things … spend the next few years complaining about the extremist party … do it again at the next election cycle.

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    “Alberta’s young working population and more jobs with higher wages has resulted in Albertans over-contributing tens of billions into the CPP compared to the benefits we’ve received,” states a Government of Alberta video promoting the creation of an Alberta pension plan.

    Aren’t the high wages (and young people) predominately because oil/gas? Are those not national natural resources?

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    I fucking dare her

    • to try

    And I fucking dare Albertans

    • to burn the damn – passport – drivers license – house deed – high school diploma

    lol ;)

    Edit: as a show of confidence, Smith voters should trade in their CPP stats over to her pension plan, indemnify her for blowing it on stupid shit like saving Christmas and fighting carbon taxes and deincorporating towns so they can form freedom villages and offering private schools charters that are actually diploma mills for the ignorant parents to charge the state to deprive their children of an education, etc. Lots of “work” to be “done” hehe

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    This sounds a lot like the Brexit commentary when it was being started.

    • grandiose announcements of how much better it would be
    • how the ‘rest of EU’ was milking them dry
    • outright lies of what Britain was sending to the EU
    • false promises of what they would get when they left
    • and at the end muddle the conversations with tangential issues but make them sound like it is really really germane to the overall discussion
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    I wonder how accurate this is when over half of our province voted for someone pushing this exact policy. As an Albertan, I’ve never understood the independent pension plan. You now have less people paying into it meaning that is less expansive and beneficial to those who need it for zero reason. We also now have to take the burden of managing an entirely separate pension plan too

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      I’ve never understood the independent pension plan

      If you migrate to or from Alberta, you get nothing. The ‘others’ can suck it

      And if you move to BC at 60 years of age, you still get nothing, you rest-of-Canada-lover you.

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    Albertan voters decided to “fuck around” and now they are in the “find out” stage.