I get you’re being sarcastic here, but you and I both know that advertising and marketing can be incredibly subtle and insidious. Hell, that exact complaint is half the content posted to Lemmy. Making your product in flavors that appeal primarily to kids is about as blatant as it gets. What makes you think vape manufacturers are so honest?
In case you’re being serious, take a stroll down the candy or cereal aisle at your grocery store and see if you can pick out which ones are marketed to kids vs adults just by the flavors.
Do you think its the flavor that makes those kid cereals? Or do you maybe think its the childish mascots with puzzles and games on the back of the box? Because I sure as shit wouldnt call the 4 fruit flavors of cheerios as “marketed towards children,” just as I dont think the existence of fruit is a plot by Big Agriculture to reel in the child market.
How boring is your diet? Cause this is apparently a shock for you, but most adults like sweets. We also like fruits. Theres a reason why flavored vodka isnt restricted to piss and old coffee grounds as its primary flavors. People, yes even the adult ones, like things that taste good. And, oooooh another shocker, they want the things they like to have good flavor options.
Adults also liking something in no way negates the idea that the marketing and flavors are designed to hook in kids.
Honestly, aside from a little thing like ethics, vape manufacturers would be stupid to NOT try and hook kids while they are young and impressionable, so the default assumption has to be that they are trying.
Look, I’m open to discussing in good faith, but we’re clearly talking past each other and this feels more like bickering, so I don’t see much point in continuing, other than to collect downvotes 😅
I think I’m at a point where I don’t care what appeals to kids. I shouldn’t have to miss out on stuff I like cause a kid “could” be interested in a flavor I also like.
“But kids like fruity flavors!” OK? and what do I care? I’ve never seen anything marketing ecigs towards children.
That’s on the kid’s parents. not me. I’m a legal adult and I showed my ID and bought my stuff. Parents need to be present if they don’t want their kids hooked on stuff. And keep their kids outta adult spaces.
I don’t see the need to make it more complicated than that.
There was a whole fiasco a while back where Juul got in trouble for marketing to teens. Not explicitly, but if you had seen what ads they were pushing it was obvious they knew it would be pulling in young people.
The answer to that though is of course tighter marketing regulations, not product bans. Banning any type of vape is an absolutely laughable proposition as long as ciggies are still legal.
Really…?
I get you’re being sarcastic here, but you and I both know that advertising and marketing can be incredibly subtle and insidious. Hell, that exact complaint is half the content posted to Lemmy. Making your product in flavors that appeal primarily to kids is about as blatant as it gets. What makes you think vape manufacturers are so honest?
In case you’re being serious, take a stroll down the candy or cereal aisle at your grocery store and see if you can pick out which ones are marketed to kids vs adults just by the flavors.
Do you think its the flavor that makes those kid cereals? Or do you maybe think its the childish mascots with puzzles and games on the back of the box? Because I sure as shit wouldnt call the 4 fruit flavors of cheerios as “marketed towards children,” just as I dont think the existence of fruit is a plot by Big Agriculture to reel in the child market.
How boring is your diet? Cause this is apparently a shock for you, but most adults like sweets. We also like fruits. Theres a reason why flavored vodka isnt restricted to piss and old coffee grounds as its primary flavors. People, yes even the adult ones, like things that taste good. And, oooooh another shocker, they want the things they like to have good flavor options.
Adults also liking something in no way negates the idea that the marketing and flavors are designed to hook in kids.
Honestly, aside from a little thing like ethics, vape manufacturers would be stupid to NOT try and hook kids while they are young and impressionable, so the default assumption has to be that they are trying.
Look, I’m open to discussing in good faith, but we’re clearly talking past each other and this feels more like bickering, so I don’t see much point in continuing, other than to collect downvotes 😅
I dont think you claiming that liking the taste of grapes makes me a child is in good faith, but you can go right ahead believing that if you like.
I think I’m at a point where I don’t care what appeals to kids. I shouldn’t have to miss out on stuff I like cause a kid “could” be interested in a flavor I also like.
“But kids like fruity flavors!” OK? and what do I care? I’ve never seen anything marketing ecigs towards children.
That’s on the kid’s parents. not me. I’m a legal adult and I showed my ID and bought my stuff. Parents need to be present if they don’t want their kids hooked on stuff. And keep their kids outta adult spaces.
I don’t see the need to make it more complicated than that.
There was a whole fiasco a while back where Juul got in trouble for marketing to teens. Not explicitly, but if you had seen what ads they were pushing it was obvious they knew it would be pulling in young people.
The answer to that though is of course tighter marketing regulations, not product bans. Banning any type of vape is an absolutely laughable proposition as long as ciggies are still legal.
My little brother really likes unhealthy cheeseburgers. What can the federal government do to help if not ban cheeseburgers for everyone?
I would try a cheeseburger flavored vape