• cbarrick@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Are you seriously questioning the designation of Hamas as a terrorist group?

    What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You?


    Israel is occupying Palestine. Netanyahu’s government is implementing collective punishment. The IDF have killed 10x as many civilians as Hamas. And Hamas is a terrorist organization.

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      1 year ago

      AFAIK Hamas has mostly been doing rocket attacks since 2006, which are pretty questionable but have a clear military purpose.

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        1 year ago

        I wouldn’t say “clear.”

        Yes, missiles are weapons more associated with military operations than terrorism.

        But Hamas doesn’t perform “military operations” AFAIK. They don’t “advance” on areas or take cities or any other goal I associate with military offensives.

        The strategy, from what I can tell, is to launch missiles at civilians in order to terrorize Israel. It’s just terrorism with missiles.

        (And yeah, while the IDF does appear to have more traditional military operations, it is also clear that terrorizing Palestine is a specific goal. They also deserve the title.)

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          1 year ago

          Yes, missiles are weapons more associated with military operations than terrorism.

          But Hamas doesn’t perform “military operations” AFAIK. They don’t “advance” on areas or take cities or any other goal I associate with military offensives.

          The missiles force Israel to use the iron dome, which makes sense from an attrition perspective. Also they sometimes use large amounts of them to get concessions out of Israel (see: 2021). They’re basically what gives Hamas teeth in this conflict.

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            1 year ago

            Hamas rips up pipe to make rockets, and steals construction supplies to make tunnels.

            The pipe and supplies that are supposed to help Palestinians live and survive without disease.

            So that Hamas can apply pressure to ISRAEL for the Palestinian conditions?

            Myself and literally everyone I know want to support the Palestinians. And it’s impossible to support them while Hamas (or another jihadist organization) is there.

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              Myself and literally everyone I know want to support the Palestinians. And it’s impossible to support them while Hamas (or another jihadist organization) is there.

              What’s preventing you from supporting Palestine is Israel, who wants to keep Palestinians divided so they can claim there’s no representative of the Palestinian people and therefore they can’t negotiate for peace. For context, Gaza was first blockaded in 2005, before Hamas’s election.

              Also another question: Then what about the West Bank? The PNA, which has denounced nonviolence for 30 years, is the one in charge there, yet they’re still being ethnically cleansed. That’s how Hamas got in charge.