Congressional staff say the mood inside the Capitol is tense, stifling and bewildering as members brush off their constituents’ outrage.

Congressional staff say the mood inside the Capitol is tense, stifling and bewildering as members brush off their constituents’ outrage.

  • nucleative@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    1 year ago

    Genocide is unacceptable. It’s unjustified in every case. Does this conflict meet the definition of genocide? And if so, who is the perpetrator here?

    • wildginger
      22·
      1 year ago

      Youre dodging the question with a joke? Really?

      • nucleative@lemmy.worldEnglish
        34·
        1 year ago

        Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or serious. I’m being serious. I’d be happy to learn and discuss if you’re willing to reply with more than accusations.

        As I understand it, the Hamas Charter says that Israel should not exist. At all. Attacking civilians as opposed to Israeli militants appears to reinforce that assesment. I’m not sure this meets the definition of genocide but telling your opponent they don’t get to exist seems to bark up that tree.

        At the same time, Israel is sending missles into populous zones, which absolutely sucks, but isn’t that where Hamas attacks from and stores weaponry? I consent that I only think this because of what I’ve read. I have no idea if it’s really factual. Is Hamas using the Palestinians as a shield to further their goals? That doesn’t sound like symbiosis, it sounds like a parasite.

        If it’s true, why is Hamas putting civilians in the line of fire by waging war and then locating their gear in such a location? That sounds a bit genocidal in the same way that cancer kills its host.

          • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
            32·
            1 year ago

            How do you reconcile the fact that Hamas explicitly does not want Israelis to exist anymore though? Does that not mean they intend to carry out a genocide?

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              310·
              1 year ago

              They would be fine with Israelis becoming Palestinian. That’s hardly genocide.

              They just don’t want Israel to exist.

              • donuts@kbin.social
                2·
                1 year ago

                The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, ‘O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.’ Only the Gharkad tree would not do that, because it is one of the trees of the Jews.

                A real hadith quote from Hamas’ founding charter, Article VII (1988)

                Let’s be totally real here, for most of their short history Hamas has been deeply committed to carrying out a genocide against the Jewish people for a mix of reasons including politics, religion and race. Over the last 4-5 years Hamas have made an effort to moderate their language around this topic, but judging by recent events they have done very little to moderate their actions and ideology.

                • wildginger
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  Thats how israel was created. Israel did that within living memory. That was how that nation came to be.

                  I dont think being homophobic is overly relevant, tho, no? Being homophobic is not a reason to murder people.

                • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  12·
                  1 year ago

                  Your homophobia aside, that’s exactly what the Israelis are doing. Also, strictly speaking, the conquering and elimination of a national government isn’t genocide. That requires the people to be murdered for being of that national origin. If they aren’t being murdered, there’s no genocide.