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    Basically democracies. It is kind of difficult to consider non-democratic dictators like Putin or Kim Jong-un as representatives of some kind of “community”.

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        South America just isn’t really too involved in international politics in general, the whole region is neutral in almost all conflicts since very few directly affect them

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                If you use the old Cold War definition, yes. Otherwise

                However, as the Cold War ended with the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the definition largely shifted to instead refer to any country that boasts a well-functioning democratic system with little prospects of political risk, in addition to a strong rule of law, a capitalist economy with economic stability, and a high standard of living.

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        I said this about Assad as well, but when someone is a forever ruler, it may not be as democratic as the name implies

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        Of course. I am not going to defend the particular choice of countries in that picture. Where is South Korea, for example? However. Democracy is greater than just democratic election. Fascists in Germany also come to power in a free democratic election, does not make Nazi Germany a democratic country.

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          The nazis in Germany came to power in the “Machtergreifung” (seizure of power).
          In the last free democratic election, they got 33% of the vote.

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            Yes, but it was by far the largest (the second party got just 20%) and in multiparty system that was enough to later enact laws that made it into dictatorship.

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        South Korea at least should probably be included in this map. It generally does include capitalist democracies, but it’s not sufficient and probably not necessary for the general criteria.

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        Never heard that they don’t generally stand alongside the rest of democracies if you hear ‘international community’. All of them condemning Russias attack on Ukraine, China taking parts of the Philippines and the terrorist attack on Israel from the Hamas.

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        to be fair, South Korea is a company country, fucking Samsung is more influential than the government is many places

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        Ah yes Brazil, beacon of freedom, like the freedom to shoot some slum kid in the face for the crime of being a slum rat.

        Brazil makes the USA seem like the fucking beacon of freedom and equality that the fucking G.I. Joe cartoons portray it as.

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            dumb? have you ever fucking been to Brazil? well at least outside the posh tourist areas.

            I already know the answer is no, because anyone who HAS knows that the shit I described is all too common, and it’s not like I haven’t lived in “economically challenged”(see Hood) parts of the US.

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      What an odd coincidence that primarily white, English-speaking countries have democracy.

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        Nothing odd about it. There are historical reasons for that. But English speaking? You do know that there are many countries in EU?

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            Even as primarily, this is false statement. And even there, there are historical reasons.

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              You are so stuck on details you entirely missed my point. Are you just going to ignore the fact that the “world” depicted here is literally just Europe and its most successful colonies?

              Yeah colonialism is a “historical reason”, but wtf are you even saying there? Being killed is “a reason” to be lying on the stairs, but explaining that by saying “he has his reasons” is so out-of-touch as to be insane.

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      yeah,

      these are the democracies that invaded Iraq/Libya to install a democracy.

      I keep having to remind myself how much good it did to the people of Iraq/Libya.