Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

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    So, who’s responsibility is it to feed them?

    Their military occupiers, Israel. Or maybe the people blockading them and actually controlling how much aid goes in and how much they can import (with their meagre economy since they’re not allowed to export their goods), which is also Israel. Maybe the people who actually created the current situation and actively worked to maintain it so Palestinians can’t have peace—you guessed it, Israel.

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      Their military occupiers, Israel.

      Aside for some areas in North Gaza, Israel doesn’t occupy the Gaza Strip, and hasn’t for decades.

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          1 nation one vote combine with a European history of hating Jews and Gypsies.

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              Is it? Have you ever asked a European about their opinions on Jews and Gypsies? I’d make a KKK member blush.

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                I know that, but assuming that influence somehow makes it all the way to the UN is tenuous at best. You’re gonna need proof for that. Also, European countries are 44 out of a total of 193, so even if somehow they were all ruled by antisemites, that’s not nearly enough to make the whole UN antisemitic.

                The UN is one of the least biased entities in the world, so if you think they’re biased, there’s a good chance you’re the one being biased.

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                  44 European nations plus 56 Islamic nations is essentially a majority.

                  The UN is one of the least biased entities in the world, so if you think they’re biased, there’s a good chance you’re the one being biased.

                  I’m what way? The UN has confirmed Israel more than every other thing that has happened on the planet combine. How is that not bias?

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                  There’s an additional 56 Islamic nations. Combine with the Cold War nations on the Soviet side that still vote with them.

                  The Old World loves to hate Jews.

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      Egypt also could provide help, but for some “strange reason” they do not want. All the countries that cheered on October 7th and supposedly support Palestine, won’t provide any help beyond weapons. They don’t give damn, their goal is to kill Jews, and if Palestinians die in the process, hey that’s “even better”.

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        How about this: It’s solely unrwas responsibility, but anyone who specifically bombs unrwa resources has to take over fully?

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          How about this. It’s the responsibility of the government in charge, Hamas to consider the feeding and care of it’s citizens as a part of its war plan with its neighbors.

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            Given that the plans that government arranged for are being thwarted by Israel, it seems they are taking steps to reassert their ability to feed their people. I don’t think that’s the best solution here, that Hamas keeps attacking Israel, so I’m looking elsewhere. If you’re content with the way Hamas handles things, by all means, leave them with no humanitarian support or other options.

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              I don’t think that’s the best solution here, that Hamas keeps attacking Israel, so I’m looking elsewhere.

              In normal warfare. When a siege shows that it’s has the ability to starve the populace if continued; it’s the duty of the seiged to surrender before their population starts to starve.

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                  Honestly, they’re dying. Israel estimates they’ve killed 1/4th of their Army. And based on the things that they’re trying to smuggle in it (oxygen equipment) seems like they might have a significant amount of their forces stuck underground, caved in.

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                    That either makes them fight more desperately or we wait a generation for the surviving Palestinians to grow up and start the fight anew.

                    We know how this goes, unless Israel makes huge concessions or starts killing even larger numbers of Palestinians