Clerics have a pray each morning and their deity grants them some spells for the day, meaning if the deity is unhappy it can deny them today’s spells. Warlocks have been given the knowledge of how to cast some forbidden magicks, they don’t need their patron to give them permission to cast what they already know. If a warlock pisses off their patron then they’ll have to come down and rip that knowledge out of their head with their slimy tentacles, which sounds like a great plot, I’ve got some writing to do…
Warlock was apparently meant to be an INT-based caster in 5e, apparently the grognards didn’t like change so they reverted it after the dndnext playtest (but forgot to change all the starting proficiencies!) It makes more sense for the “mad mage who studied the forbidden magicks” archetype though.
Man 5e really needs another INT caster and has too many CHA casters too. Every party is full of charismatic dumbfucks which I guess fits with how most players play.
The trouble is that there’s basically no downside to dumping INT, it’s not like back in the day when things like languages and skill ranks depended on it
Well, I think the current distribution is far better. A mad mage who studied forbidden magic is a wizard, like all mages who study. A “mage who made a pact with an entity to get power or magic”, by definition, did not studied. A mage who studied and also made a pact can have both classes.
There is the pact of the tome that emphasise the idea that you can get a magical tome to get spells. You didn’t wrote those spells. You still didn’t learn this magic. What intelligence is there to this craft?
Clerics have a pray each morning and their deity grants them some spells for the day, meaning if the deity is unhappy it can deny them today’s spells. Warlocks have been given the knowledge of how to cast some forbidden magicks, they don’t need their patron to give them permission to cast what they already know. If a warlock pisses off their patron then they’ll have to come down and rip that knowledge out of their head with their slimy tentacles, which sounds like a great plot, I’ve got some writing to do…
Warlock is given the power too. You wouldn’t be able to bargain your spellslots back of it didn’t come from your patron.
Also, if it was knowledge based, you’d use your intelligence, not your charisma.
Warlock was apparently meant to be an INT-based caster in 5e, apparently the grognards didn’t like change so they reverted it after the dndnext playtest (but forgot to change all the starting proficiencies!) It makes more sense for the “mad mage who studied the forbidden magicks” archetype though.
Man 5e really needs another INT caster and has too many CHA casters too. Every party is full of charismatic dumbfucks which I guess fits with how most players play.
The trouble is that there’s basically no downside to dumping INT, it’s not like back in the day when things like languages and skill ranks depended on it
Well, I think the current distribution is far better. A mad mage who studied forbidden magic is a wizard, like all mages who study. A “mage who made a pact with an entity to get power or magic”, by definition, did not studied. A mage who studied and also made a pact can have both classes.
There is the pact of the tome that emphasise the idea that you can get a magical tome to get spells. You didn’t wrote those spells. You still didn’t learn this magic. What intelligence is there to this craft?
That’s a great way of describing it.