• LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    America hates black people so much man. I know this is a lot of different systemic issues but I’m a black dude and to be 💯 with it American is okay calling it quits cause they’re black. East Palestine will probably have the same fate as because they are poor, and to be poor in America is to be black.

    ( on the super real I’m not equating black people as inherently poor or any weird shit like that, I’m just saying Amerikkkan Kkkaptial deems black people as less than, and has done so for generations)

    amerikkka

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      I hear ya. The society built on the backs of slaves has spent centuries keeping wealth from Black people. Of course, the US would then by extension persecute and neglect its poorest populations who don’t have the means or ability to leave because of things like Red Lining.

      It’s so fucked on so many levels.

    • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      It’s maddening how much the US hates black people at every level. We cultivated race-pseudoscience and colorist theology to secure support for and ignorance of white supremacism, and we have never even begun to address what has followed. We address the very worst symptoms of our implicitly racist institutions operated by explicitly racist people only when revolution looks like a real threat, and then we always double back to affirm that we never had that bad of a racism problem because we eventually did the bare minimum that we were forced to do

      /rant

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      1,000%. I’m white. If there’s one thing that makes me feel like I’m losing my mind, it’s how I know most of my fellow mayos do really hate black people - but no one ever comes out and just says it, even when there’s only around other white people. And in fact they will go out of their way to deny they have a racist bone in their body. They’re racist af but since they never actually come out and say “I think all black people should be deported to Africa”, if you try and call them out on their bullshit they get incredibly defensive and deny everything. It’s like, most white people have this vague notion that being racist is bad. But they see themselves as being good. So they can’t be racist. But they also hate black people. So they square that circle by telling themselves that so long as they don’t come out and say “I think white people are just better”, then they can’t be racist. They proscribe the definition of racism to be so narrow that they can claim that “racism is over”.

      • RonPaulyShore [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I know most of my fellow mayos do really hate black people

        i’ve been a white liberal, i’ve been in the milieu of white liberals, i know white liberals. i don’t think this is true tbh, at least in liberal circles. there’s a conflation between being blind to systemic racism or structural issues and racial animus; liberals may be guilty of the former (or, may be definitionally so), but that doesn’t imply the latter.

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    Consequences? In America?

    We have an ex president who tried to overthrow the government who is still walking free today. Nothing’s gonna happen, nothing’s gonna change.

    Unless…?

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      When a president tries to overthrow the government, you’ll see them plan and organize with key figures in the army, private industry, and government.

      Donald Trump tried to give a speech in front of the political equivalent of a loosing team’s sports riot. You want an actual coup? The supreme court awarded George Bush Jr. the presidency in 2000.

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        To be fair to the hysterical liberals who want to turn it into resistance 9/11, there was more to it than that. It was supposed to be a constitutional coup. The speech and the riot weren’t supposed to be the main element, they were supposed to be the threat against his own people to go along with the plan. “Hang Mike Pence.” Pence was supposed to take a list of fake electors and present them into the dumb ritual congress does to actually certify the election. Considering how feckless liberals are with pursuing power there’s a nonzero chance it would have worked.

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          It absolutely would have worked. Liberals would have taken that bout of cheating squarely in the face and tried to argue against it through legitimate channels while the conservatives would have had them all thrown out for being ‘anti-American commies’ or whatever

          Liberals would still be trying to instill order, hall monitor style, in the halls of parliament while Nazis were goose stepping through them

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          That’s where it was always gonna break down, though. Trump just didn’t have the sway over his own cabinet, let alone enough key figures to pull it off. Like, a serious bid for power wouldn’t have hinged on publicly threatening the guy you need to do the legal chicanery. There was no real plan, just a fairy-tale to rationalize a long chain of hasty decisions made in the moment.

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      tried to overthrow the government

      The fucking riot consisted of a bunch of meemaw boomers standing around gormlessly in the lobby, a couple chads sitting at politicians’ desks, a couple Q dipshits who thought they could rush the Secret Service, and like a dozen Atomwaffen goons

      It wasn’t even close to being a legitimate threat

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      You’re right. But in order to maintain its dying global hegemony, Amerikkka (the imperialist, settler-colonial, fascist, capitalist government) must prevent Russia from selling natural gas to the EU and must use Israel as a forward operating base to control the energy industries of the MENA countries. Otherwise dollar hegemony will end and then it won’t be cheap to fix domestic problems anymore. So Amerikkkan “prosperity” is tied to American imperialism, and more and more of the discretionary and non-discretionary budget must be spent on maintaining that imperialism. The country is in a death spiral and the only way out is revolution. There’s no redirecting the blood money to fixing the domestic wounds, because the value of the blood money itself is tied to the fact that it’s used to bomb people instead of healing domestic wounds.

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    But my-hero made a PR spectacle of helping/saving Flint so that did something of lasting significance, right? anakin-padme-2

    But my-hero made a PR spectacle of helping/saving Flint so that did something of lasting significance, right? anakin-padme-4