Is it an isolated event or does it have any correlation with anything else?

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    Have you heard of barrier aggression in dogs?

    TLDR: Dogs use body language. smell etc to gauge wether another dog is friend or foe. When a barrier (like a fence etc) stops this assessment, they go straight to aggression as a defence/protection measure.

    My guess is it a similar thing in humans.

    We are stripped of our usual communication and threat assessment of the other person we would have in a normal encounter. We can’t see their face, their body language etc etc. So if someone is prone to anxiety and/or aggression (two sides of the same coin), they jump straight to “That driver is a cunt who did that on purpose and to spite me”.

    Edit: This is also why I think online discussions so often turn into insult ridden shit fests.

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      STOP DRIVING 55 IN THE LEFT LANE ON A ROAD WITH A 65 SPEED LIMIT.

      GO WHEN THR FUCKING LIGHT TURNS GREEN.

      WHEN TRAFFIC SPEEDS UP. YOU SPEED UP TOO.

      USE YOUR FUCKING TURN SIGNAL.

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    Because you perceive your car as your own private space. But in traffic, others constantly “invade” that privacy and force you to react to them.
    Additionally, going at least the speed limit is perceived as the “normal” mode in a car. When someone in front of you forces you to stop, it feels like they’re trapping you, cause you actually want to move, but can’t.

    Basically, our lizard brains aren’t wired right for car traffic, and some people can’t deal with that.

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    I think a big part of it is that driving is inherently dangerous (you’re in a metal box going much faster than you’re capabale of going yourself, your health and finances are at stake) and frustrating (waiting in traffic, people making mistakes).

    All those things put people on edge and cause them to act out

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      There’s a huge part of it that is because there’s no communication mechanism to resolve conflict on the road, really.

      If you’re stuck behind someone going slower than you want to, how can you clearly communicate that?

      Even in a world where you could clearly speak to them, there’s huge potential for disagreement there, and since the only communication mechanisms can very easily be construed as needlessly dangerous or aggressive, of course you’re gonna see frustration and anger as a result

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        I disagree, I think most of the time it’s pretty easy to read someone’s intention (since there are only limited choices and there are ways of communicating like indicators). But I think the fact that you’re not face to face with the person and are much more likely not to face consequences for your actions definitely plays into it

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    You see, most people (myself included) subliminally think that their car is an extension of their personal space. You can see this by looking at your nearest neighboring car during a red light stop. The amount of people doing things usually reserved for their bedrooms are astronomical because our subconscious thought we’re in a safe when we’re inside our cars except for everybody can see that you’re picking your nose in all of its glory.

    So when you merge a little bit too late or you use your high beam several times, the person on the receiving end might interpret that as an encroachment of their personal space and react accordingly. During my experience as a road user, you can predict how ragey a person is based on the personalization that a person does to their car. The isolation wrought by the recent pandemic doesn’t really help because it made some people forget how to empathize with another human being.

    • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿@lemmy.world
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      I masturbated and peed into a bottle while doing 80mph up the M5 high on acid once.

      I’d like to clarify I didn’t cum, pee. I had to stop mid-wank to pee in the bottle cos being high was making it take so long. Also I drank th ebottle of pee afterwards cos well, high.

      I wouldn’t recommend drinking dark yellow, fresh pee - no matter how high you are - it doesn’t taste great.

      • I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.world
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        finally, an interesting story on here! the righteousness was getting mundane, and i needed someone to share an honest, shameful experience with…err… no shame. thank you for being so forthcoming, and i hope you’re doing better

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    Because I can’t see through these god damn LED headlights this F150/Silverado is using to blind the fuck out of my as it barrels down the road to hang out on my ass in the right lane because someone in the left lane is going to slow.

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    Because either the person they’re raging at is a moron that doesn’t know how to drive, or they’re a moron that doesn’t know how to drive and nothing is ever their fault.

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      The second one is also essentially the first.

      In summary, it’s because they think they were wronged (it doesn’t matter if it actually was like this), thus they believe to have to dish out “justice”.

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        No, sometimes other people really are morons that don’t know how to drive. Thats not to say that road rage is right, just that it is understandable how it sometimes happens.

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    Lots of good suggestions here, including the difficulty in communicating inherent to being in a car.

    I think another important factor is that driving itself is stressful. Surveys of commuters consistently show that people who walk or cycle have the highest satisfaction with their commute, while motorists ranks somewhere from the middle to the bottom (i.e., either ahead of or behind people who use public transport), depending on the study.

    When you put people in a stressful situation where it’s difficult to communicate, inevitably some people lose their temper.

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    Back when I had this issue, it was because I had a stressful job, and all I want to do is go home but you get people on these winding ass country roads who don’t know them so they go 20 under!!

    Now I just get mad if someone is stupid and almost hits me.

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    • seeing your car as an extension of yourself – it’s not “your car hit my car”, it’s “you hit me!”
    • disassociation – not seeing the other drivers as humans, just seeing their cars
    • willingness to conflate minor inconveniences with being the victim, being oppressed
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    This is an interesting discussion. I’ve had a few loonies rage at me. How do you handle when drivers follow you way too close, like if you have to brake they might rear-end your car? I’ve had this happen a few times and it’s never because I’m driving under the limit, I usually speed moderately at 20% over. My solution has been to ease my foot off the accelerator to slowly slow down to give them a hint. Some catch on and back off, others get aggressive.

    Edit: I should note that speeding up isn’t always possible because in some cases I’m behind someone else at a safe distance.

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      Yes. You have to adjust your speed so you have time to react for both you and the tailgater.

      They have very good brakes and reaction times in Austria, because pretty much every car tailgates there, even if they don’t go very fast after passing you.

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      Take your foot off the gas and let the car coast. It will slow down gradually and they will be forced to brake.

      Turn your hazard lights on.

      Flash your hazards on and off a couple of times.

      Move over and let them pass if it’s safe and viable to do so (you are in the passing lane and there is a slow lane to merge into etc).

      Don’t brake check them. It can cause you to be partially at fault in a fair number of places if there’s an accident as a result,and even if your insurance doesn’t consider an accident your fault, that doesn’t protect you in the event that the other party decides to sue.

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      8 months ago

      Rear window washer. Gives them a spray. Also you can slow down with cruise control

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    For me its when I see a driver who is driving unexpectedly. Like speeding in areas with kids. Or driving at high speeds anywhere.

    roadways are build for a certain speed so we can anticipate oncoming traffic. Like lights are programmed to allow a block of traffic to go then a break so cars turning can complete the turn between the break. if some asshole fucks it up by hammering the gas they will end up in between the blocks making it harder for all the cars to complete their turn since they now have to wait.

    Someone said ‘reading intention’ which is a big part too. I can’t read intention of drivers who are selfishly doing what they want.

    it’s the realization that traffic could be better and safer if it wasn’t for certain drivers

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      In congested cities if you don’t enter the intersection when its not completely clear then you’ll have to wait ~40 minutes for a chance to go across. Waymo’s riders have that as one of the biggest frustrations. Then theres a gridlock behind them.

      There’s no winning with cars.

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    i mean a big part of it is just the fact that cars are so inherently bad as a form of transport that 5 of them meeting at an intersection results in people having to stop and wait, which obviously results in frustration because you’re constantly blocked with no way of even turning around.

    compare this to a bike where you’re never really blocked unless you’re in a pedestrian area, and even then you can just turn around and leave and pick a different route.

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      It’s easy to get really frustrated with driving when you have to waste so much of your life sitting still in a metal box.

      It’s a daily prison we all put ourselves in and (in the US) we don’t have a choice.