Hi! sorry for the random topic 😅

Youtube keeps getting more and more annoying. Is there a good other platform where to migrate? If people were to migrate, where would they go?

the thing I liked about youtube is the massive amount of content, and knowing that if I upload a video, it’s really easy to watch by others. I like the ability to follow channels too.

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    1 year ago

    Odysee is probably the biggest one, with a lot of creators having their youtube synced with it. Peertube is also an option, but I’ve never used it.

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      Odysee was acquired by Google in 2015, so it’s unfortunately another corporate-run greed machine. PeerTube is decentralized though.

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    There is Nebula, but it requires a subscription. However, all of the creators on it are part owners, so you know they get a better deal than whatever YouTube is giving them. Well worth the $50 a year to me.

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      Since hosting videos is expensive and many youtubers rely on youtube for income, I think paying to watch makes sense, especially if it’s reasonably priced with a large cut going to the creators like with nebula. The main downside is that it’s hard to imagine most people switching to a subscription based service, so creators will still have to rely on youtube for discoverability.

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    I use Odyssey most of the time, they make it very simple for creators to mirror their YouTube content so I like to support the ones who have.

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    Being realistic here, there’s no worthwhile competitor to youtube at this point in time. You have some stuff like odysee, LBRY, peertube etc. However, the amount of content on them is basically nothing compared to youtube and there’s little incentive for creators to move there due to how difficult it would be to monetise your content in those places.

    My best pick would be invidious which is a private & ad-free yt frontend that uses it’s own API and doesn’t need JS. I already use it all the time. It’s good.

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      1 year ago

      iirc, one of the few alternatives actually endorsed by content creators [Wendover is the only name which comes to mind right now, probably because they are involved in creating it] was Nebula

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    1 year ago

    Lots of good suggestions already, but if you have to stick to YouTube, you could always use a third party client. FreeTube for desktop and Newpipe for Android. They function great. You don’t need an account and can organize and export your history and subscriptions, it’s a much better way to interact with YouTube than the official methods. Newpip even allows for background playing.

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    Frankly, there is nothing close to YouTube’s scale.

    It is the online teevee at its finest except google is already heading twitter and reddit route so people need to start supporting some competition.

    Nebula and odysee appear to be the current available alternatives; however, i haven’t tried them.

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    I don’t think it’s realistic to expect a free to use alternative to YouTube to exist. The project itself was never profitable, and now that they’re really struggling to give people ads they’re introducing these anti adblock measures. It simply costs too much in resources to store and send out high quality video content for free.

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      I don’t think it’s realistic to expect a free to use alternative to YouTube to exist…It simply costs too much in resources to store and send out high quality video content for free.

      I agree, and at the same time I think this raises the great question of, why did anyone think it was a good idea to put all of this on a single site to begin with? Ideally it sounds great, courtesy of its convenience and…I’m sure there’s more but I’m blanking on other qualities that don’t seem to lean on presumptions of benefits from a singular site’s operations.

      Realistically it was almost always going to be a better idea to distribute the load of high density media like this across different operators to ensure a variety of video production, better redundancy through no single point of failure, reduced operational costs as a lower volume of data has to be stored & processed, and so on. Of course, the problem remains by & large the network effect in terms of getting any large group of people to disperse or move anywhere else, because it’s not like there haven’t been alternatives attempted, nor alternative technologies to enable alternatives to exist.

      However, there’s also the problem of any alternatives or competitors framing themselves as an alternative or competitor to YouTube to begin with. That’s a losing approach from the start, instead they need to frame themselves as themselves, not a different YouTube, but an independent video host with xyz unique features.

      If you don’t believe that could be a successful approach, then you’re simply ignoring the brief popularity of Vine and the rapid success and continuing popularity of TikTok.

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    As @[email protected] said, the software PeerTube exists. However, due to the extreme costs of video hosting, a general purpose PeerTube instance does not exist. It would cost alot for video storage and more importantly moderators to ensure content is not illegal.

    Maybe if we all paid @[email protected] like $20/month we could get PeerTube.world

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        Yeah if it happens to me, I’ll probably just sign up to YouTube premium in Turkey or something 😂

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    I’m sure I’ll get roasted for this, but just get YouTube Premium. As much content as people tend to consume on YT, I don’t know why it’s the only platform people seem so against paying for. YTP views are worth more to content creators. There’s no ads. And you can get YT music with it too. Honestly, it’s just a massive amount of content and nothing even comes close. I know the joke is “who would pay for YT Premium”, but, at least in my house, it gets like 10x the use of Netflix and Hulu.

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        If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it. Streaming services aren’t cheap. That being said, if you get a majority of your daily entertainment from something, like a lot of people seem to with YT, then I think it’s worth the money. Like, it’s easy to think of YT and Google as these evil corporations, and they totally are, but at the same time, hosting video at the scale that YT does isn’t a charity, you know?

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      YTP views are worth more to content creators. There’s no ads.

      This is false, and I would argue that YTP generates significantly less revenue for content creators than even a dollar donation would over hundreds of videos.

      YTP, when I had it, was still serving ads AND using trackers, which is not something I want to pay Google for.

      For context, I have a YT channel with 3+ million views and tens of thousands of subscribers. YTP generates 1% of YouTube revenue, while ads make up the 99% difference.

      Most people will have a handful of content creators that they regularly watch. If you took the YTP amount and split it between those creators as donations, you’ve made them far more than YouTube ads or YTP ever could.

      That’s my advice, as a content creator.

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      The only problem with this is that more and more channels are adding native ads to their vids, and YT Premium doesn’t bypass those ads

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          Oh yeah I was referring to YouTube on TV. Gotta try smarttube next, last I checked it didn’t exist then

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          SponsorBlock is brilliant. It’s also integrated into the excellent SmartTube app for Android and Android TV, which also hides the normal ads, even if you don’t have premium