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The US is extremely unfriendly to legal immigration. You can be legally working in the states for a decade and yet not qualify for PR and have to leave. This is a major discouraging factor for skilled workers who don’t want to deal with that kind of uncertainty.
I had a girlfriend with a PhD working at a national lab, who also had a family with tens of millions of dollars (Euros, I guess actually). She was worried if she didn’t get a job after her residency or whatever was done, she’d have to leave the country. If she doesn’t feel secure I can only imagine for people without advanced education and wealth.
Yeah pretty much that. A lot of people think getting a job and work permit = immigration. It’s not. I’m not uprooting my life to move to a country only to get kicked out 2 presidents later.
And yet every single available h1-b visa available in the lottery is assigned. 80,000 skilled jobs, a huge number of which issue because of employer fraud (the absolute lie that no willing citizens are available).
There’s a big difference between temporary workers and people who want to settle down with a family, though. H1B workers are by and large here for a short while only
H1-B visas are 3 years plus 3 year extension. In 6 years time, a person can go from a trained but entry level skilled position to a mid-level position or better.
It’s not about career progression. It’s about not being able to settle down in the states when your visa is finished. There’s no automatic qualification for permanent residency just because you’ve spent 6 years there
Well the initial article and discussion was about declining population due to it being difficult to migrate to the states and get residency. You may have a point about the job market, I’m not an expert on the American situation, it just wasn’t what we were discussing to begin with.
Source: I’m an immigrant who spent a ton of time researching my options before moving. I’d like you to explain how I can move to the states and be assured a PR without resorting to a lottery draw.
I should point out all your links are from sites with a vested interest in getting people to pay for their services.
Lots of people are opposed to all sorts of legal immigration. Many people actually believe that immigrants can take away jobs from natives if they come over en masse, and then we won’t have jobs for people born here
I am under the impression that the H1-B visa program is taking away jobs from people born here (aka citizens) because it all you have to do is lie about how you couldn’t find a qualified citizen to work, then you can pay someone a fraction of what it would cost to hire a citizen.
The point is that en masse, when immigrants move to America, they create more jobs than they “take,” because immigrants are also consumers.
H1B visas might be used to make certain specific roles far more competitive, but you’d be hard pressed to make the argument that the tech sector isn’t one of the highest paying sectors period, or that they’re short on jobs
Why do you assume unskilled labor must be illegally migrating? Migrant workers are the norm and usually come in on a temp visa. Huge numbers of undocumented workers are here because of an expired short work visa for something like summer-fall harvesting.
Outside the scope of my point, but fine. Though splitting hairs between illegal entry and illegal remaining is a fools errand. I wasn’t talking about migrant workers. Nor asylum claimers (does anyone NOT claim asylum in this day and age, vs just crossing and hoping to not get caught?).
I don’t mean highly skilled work. Approximately 10 million undocumented immigrants work low paying jobs and are deprived of any sort of benefits or protection under law such as minimum wage, overtime, health benefits, OSHA protections, unemployment and workers compensation for injuries. Oddly they tend to work for businesses owned by conservatives such as meatpacking, agriculture, roofing, and construction. These businesses are well aware that they are hiring people who do not have legal authorization to work in the US. At the same time, they support politicians who demonize immigrants and have made absolutely no effort to legitimize the legal status of their workforce. Huh, I wonder why.
Republicans oppose legal immigration, otherwise the undocumented workers could easily become citizens or at least be here on long visas. As noted, it’s because they like having an abused subclass that won’t speak up lest they be threatened with deportation.
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The US is extremely unfriendly to legal immigration. You can be legally working in the states for a decade and yet not qualify for PR and have to leave. This is a major discouraging factor for skilled workers who don’t want to deal with that kind of uncertainty.
I had a girlfriend with a PhD working at a national lab, who also had a family with tens of millions of dollars (Euros, I guess actually). She was worried if she didn’t get a job after her residency or whatever was done, she’d have to leave the country. If she doesn’t feel secure I can only imagine for people without advanced education and wealth.
Yeah pretty much that. A lot of people think getting a job and work permit = immigration. It’s not. I’m not uprooting my life to move to a country only to get kicked out 2 presidents later.
And yet every single available h1-b visa available in the lottery is assigned. 80,000 skilled jobs, a huge number of which issue because of employer fraud (the absolute lie that no willing citizens are available).
There’s a big difference between temporary workers and people who want to settle down with a family, though. H1B workers are by and large here for a short while only
H1-B visas are 3 years plus 3 year extension. In 6 years time, a person can go from a trained but entry level skilled position to a mid-level position or better.
It’s not about career progression. It’s about not being able to settle down in the states when your visa is finished. There’s no automatic qualification for permanent residency just because you’ve spent 6 years there
You’re missing my point. It’s a job that’s off the market to qualified citizens for 3 to 6 years, on the basis of corporate fraud.
Well the initial article and discussion was about declining population due to it being difficult to migrate to the states and get residency. You may have a point about the job market, I’m not an expert on the American situation, it just wasn’t what we were discussing to begin with.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The US is one of the most friendly countries for legal immigration.
For fucks sakes not only is this person completely wrong, but almost 10 people upvoted this BS without asking for sources or checking online.
https://www.globalrcg.com/post/most-friendly-countries-for-immigrants
https://leverageedu.com/blog/immigration-friendly-countries/
https://www.greentreeimmigration.com/blog/top-immigration-countries-to-immigrate-in-2023/
Source: I’m an immigrant who spent a ton of time researching my options before moving. I’d like you to explain how I can move to the states and be assured a PR without resorting to a lottery draw.
I should point out all your links are from sites with a vested interest in getting people to pay for their services.
Well over a million immigrants come to the US every year. If you’re having problems, then chances are we don’t want you here.
Great, thanks for the illuminating answer.
Lots of people are opposed to all sorts of legal immigration. Many people actually believe that immigrants can take away jobs from natives if they come over en masse, and then we won’t have jobs for people born here
It’s dumb but they believe it.
I am under the impression that the H1-B visa program is taking away jobs from people born here (aka citizens) because it all you have to do is lie about how you couldn’t find a qualified citizen to work, then you can pay someone a fraction of what it would cost to hire a citizen.
The point is that en masse, when immigrants move to America, they create more jobs than they “take,” because immigrants are also consumers.
H1B visas might be used to make certain specific roles far more competitive, but you’d be hard pressed to make the argument that the tech sector isn’t one of the highest paying sectors period, or that they’re short on jobs
H1-B isn’t relevant to people working jobs like picking crops, who far outnumber tech workers.
And what legal immigrants are doing that work?
Why do you assume unskilled labor must be illegally migrating? Migrant workers are the norm and usually come in on a temp visa. Huge numbers of undocumented workers are here because of an expired short work visa for something like summer-fall harvesting.
Outside the scope of my point, but fine. Though splitting hairs between illegal entry and illegal remaining is a fools errand. I wasn’t talking about migrant workers. Nor asylum claimers (does anyone NOT claim asylum in this day and age, vs just crossing and hoping to not get caught?).
I don’t mean highly skilled work. Approximately 10 million undocumented immigrants work low paying jobs and are deprived of any sort of benefits or protection under law such as minimum wage, overtime, health benefits, OSHA protections, unemployment and workers compensation for injuries. Oddly they tend to work for businesses owned by conservatives such as meatpacking, agriculture, roofing, and construction. These businesses are well aware that they are hiring people who do not have legal authorization to work in the US. At the same time, they support politicians who demonize immigrants and have made absolutely no effort to legitimize the legal status of their workforce. Huh, I wonder why.
You had said legal immigration, now you’re talking about undocumented workers. They’re different topics.
Republicans oppose legal immigration, otherwise the undocumented workers could easily become citizens or at least be here on long visas. As noted, it’s because they like having an abused subclass that won’t speak up lest they be threatened with deportation.