• FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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    And for the record, I didn’t come out swinging against neopronouns. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with neo-pronouns themselves.

    What happened is that I saw a community who

    • sexually harasses people
    • fetishizes violence and executions
    • fears and mistrusts the media (to an extreme)
    • draws harsh in-group out-group lines
    • blurs the lines of their opinions with irony
    • “the West”

    And I saw all that and double sets of pronouns including neopronouns, and I was like omg, it’s Nazis pretending to be leftists. They act like Nazis, who ran with the pronoun thing and took it to the highest level. (I know now they aren’t Nazi’s, but the behavior makes a really bad first impression)

    The problem was never actually the neopronouns. It was the Nazi-like behavior that came attached.

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      And as for this comment,

      • fears and mistrusts the media (to an extreme)
      • “the West”

      This is frustrating, because, while there’s a lot you don’t know, there are at least two instances you definitely do know about: the Nayirah testimony, and the Iraq WMDs reports. The wars and sanctions following those lies killed millions of people and displaced and immiserated millions more. There’s a term for this: manufacturing consent. Many other examples have never received the same degree of attention because America did not use them to justify major wars.

      And yes, “the West.” Imperialism still exists, books and papers are written about this by serious people. Even in the thread where you were banned, people had already started to bring up details. Imperialism is a little better hidden than it used to be, but it’s still not that well hidden. Michael Hudson’s “Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire” is a good source.

      They act like Nazis… the behavior makes a really bad first impression

      nazis who were very intent on telling you about queer rights in Cuba and colonialism in the global south.

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        Being anti-American-imperialism is great, what’s suspect is the apparent Soviet ultra-nationalism, which somehow extends to Russia, so the same people who say they are against imperialism and in favor of gay rights end up supporting an imperialist, colonialist, and insanely homophobic empire.

        And yes, lots of countries in the West do lots of very bad things. I think the vague, broad, all-encompassing term of “the West” is about creating an out-group boogieman man for the in-group to identify itself against. And that’s how you get people supporting a country that represents almost everything against their apparent values. Russia gets a pass for using homophobic conspiracy theories to justify a military invasion, because it’s “against the West”.

        Michael Hudson’s “Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire” is a good source.

        Thank you, I’m grabbing an audiobook version to listen to, I am interested in learning more.