When using software and the codecs from the packman repo, what are the best practices associated with the updating and maintaince of these packages and the system in general. Do I have to wait for sometime before updating using dup or can I use the packman modules of mesa with updated versions of the mesa modules provided officially¿? Are their dependcy issues for software sourced from packman.

  • ch8zer@lemmy.ca
    3·
    1 year ago

    I’ve found it best to avoid the pacman repo. It can leave my system in such a weird inbetween state. Seeing as you mostly want codecs I tend to prefer flatpaks for VLC, Firefox, etc.

    If you insist on pacman, just wait. If you try to dup and have a conflict it means that either pacman or suse repos aren’t all updated so hold on a few days and you should be able to dup with no issues.

    • Sentau@lemmy.oneOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      Do you also use the mesa pacakge from packman repos. Will zypper automatically use the packman package of mesa when updating if you do the vendor change for mesa from official repos to packman. I am asking because when I tried TW, different versions of packages in mesa were somehow simultaneously installed after a dist-upgrade and mesa was broken

      • not_amm@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 year ago

        Yes, I also use MESA, but that only happens when you use the --allow-vendor-change option. I don’t, I prefer to wait until packman is in sync with the openSUSE repos. I had that problem previously, before reinstalling TW and I didn’t like having multiple packages out of sync and sometimes repeated, I like to see them as a bigger package that has to be updated at the same time.

        • Sentau@lemmy.oneOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          So how did you replace the mesa version. Every documentation I see seems to tell of the --allow-vendor-change option

      • not_amm@beehaw.org
        0·
        1 year ago

        Sorry for not answering earlier, I think there was a problem with Beehaw.

        Anyway, yes, I also use Packman and I do not have the --allow-vendor-change flag enabled because it caused more problems for me the last time i had TW installed. I prefer to wait until the repos are synced and then update. :)

        • Sentau@lemmy.oneOP
          1·
          1 year ago

          How did you switch mesa version without using the --allow-vendor-change flag. Did you manually uninstall the mesa packages shipped by opensuse and then switch them with mesa packages from packman? Vendor change is the only method recommended everywhere and no other methods are discussed so I am curious as to how you manage without it. Also how do track that the repos are synced. I have to manually check the packman website to see if the packages have been updated to version that opensuse is shipping. Do you do the same?

          Also sorry for the late reply

          • not_amm@beehaw.org
            1·
            1 year ago

            From what I remember, I only used opi codecs and that’s it. What I meant with the vendor change, was that I never run it nor allow it.

            When you run zypper dup, it throws you some errors telling you that the versions are different or aren’t in the official repo, which means that you should wait until there are no errors. Unless there was an official vendor change and you have no other alternative (and it’s not really common) then you have to install those specific packages from the official repo.

            • Sentau@lemmy.oneOP
              2·
              1 year ago

              Did you add the packman repo to the repository list before running opi codecs¿?

              Edit : Never mind that was a stupid question

  • DrRatso@lemmy.ml
    1·
    1 year ago

    Have a look at arch wiki entry on pacman.

    You should upgrade with pacman -Syu , this will get you an updated pacman list and update every pacman package you have installed to the new version (if there is one). Upgrading individual packages can break them if they require a specific dependency version, so upgrading everything at once is the way to go.