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  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Both Democrats and Republicans are liberals

    What?

    The first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism:

    Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.

    From the first paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property[1]:

    Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

    That’s what liberals believe. Liberals are those who support capitalism, which both Democrats and Republicans do.


    1. Not to be confused with personal property. ↩︎

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      2 days ago

      “Rights of the individual”, “liberty”, “consent of the governed”, “political equality” and “equality of the law” are meangless buzzwords that should be ignored is an interesting angle.

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        Most Republicans also believe in those things, though they quibble with Democrats over the details. Only fascists, monarchists, etc. don’t.

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          2 days ago

          Most Republicans also believe in those things

          The Republicans are abducting citizens to El Salvadorian death camps…

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            2 days ago

            And Democrats aided & abetted a genocide until they lost control of the executive branch four months ago.

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              2 days ago

              Exactly, thank you great point. Are you starting to agree these aren’t very “liberal” actions so maybe the Republicans and Democrats aren’t so liberal after all?

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                The thing is: the first priority of liberal is to maintain capitalism and private property, the “rights of the individual”, “liberty” and etc can be discarded to maintain the status quo, also, this fancy words is only for them, every other country/people can die in a genocide.

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                2 days ago

                Other way around: being in favor of genocide and kidnapping isn’t as incompatible with liberalism as you think.