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Well some of them voted Trump not because they were racist, but because they were sexist.
And some are even both.
TBH I’d guess the Venn diagram is pretty nearly circular.
Not all Republican voters are racist. I think of it more like a “Spin the wheel” of different types of bigotry (racist, homophobic, nationalist, transphobic, sexist, religious prejudice, the list goes on), which of course has a large section of “2 extra spins” for them to land upon.
Hey, I’ll add another one: being forced to by your family
I’ve had my parents strongly tell me who to not vote. Bullshit like “We aren’t telling you who to vote. You’re an adult, and I believe you can make the decision yourself. I am only telling you not to vote Korčok, because that would be stupid. But I believe you aren’t that stupid.”
But hey, my father was also annoyed for me going there on my own, rather than with my mother at once (he didn’t vote), because we’re a family and must go everywhere together.
SighIf there’s any Slovakian reading this, yeah, I voted for Korčok.
Is there any way they would know who you voted for if you went together? It’s all pretty private in the US.
Nah. The voting is anonymous. I mean, the envelope including its contents has no unique information. If someone wanted to figure out who it belonged to, they’d probably have to resort to fingerprints.
Although, if you do scribble on something else, someone who’s counting the votes may take a picture of the ballot:
“I choose (vote) you, Pikachu!”
Not all Republicans are racist, but all of them don’t think racism is a disqualifying factor. Which makes them just as bad.
If you’re ok with a racist as president, you’re racist.
Yep, if you are okay with racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/queerphobia/etc, you are racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/queerphobic/etc. No excuses for these people
Over the last few decades the GOP gradually dropped any pretense of morality taking the easiest path possible for coalition building: assembling the stupid, bigoted, gullible and conspiratorial, the least empathetic, the overworked and underinformed. They left conservative ideology back in the 80s and have won only by preying on these people’s weaknesses.
Until this year however, they managed to have enough ‘adults in the room’ to keep big business on their side so you gotta think big business this week is shitting their pants with the realization that the base has now fully overrun the party.
It’s not quite that.
The dixiecrats took over, the ones who are still enraged we took away Jim crow.
They have given the GOP a rabid base of racists who will support any economics because they don’t know what the word means.
I’m sure all the Black voters for him voted for because underneath all that make up, they see a brother.
I doubt many of those voters will admit their stupidity
No one thinks they’re stupid, but stupid people exist.
As easy as it is to be able to say “I told you so” and point the finger at those directly responsible for this current shitshow, I think we shouldn’t lose focus of the real issue/enemy: the ultra wealthy class.
I think ideally we welcome those who may have voted for the orange turd but are now regretful, give those people a community to be supported by once they are deprogrammed from the cult. Do that and united as a lower/middle class, there’s a decent hope to take back the US and start righting some wrongs. This is just optimistic and rose-tinted drivel but I have to cling onto some hope for a future. heavy sigh
“Don’t punish behavior you want to see.”
I’m not saying they should get a cookie because they joined the cause, but as long as they stay in line, support them in order to hold the line.
They don’t deserve a warm welcome. If we welcome them because they finally realized Trump is bad now… Then that’s rewarding people for changing their mind because it directly affected them (which is a stupid way to make decisions). Na they need to be shamed and roasted and they should be willing to accept that because if they truly understand that Trump is bad, they should understand how fucking stupid they were. They brought this upon us.
We only welcome them if and only if they over correct.
I.e. they start actively campaigning against Trump, publicly and without hesitation.
Because if they don’t, they’ll likely come out in 2026 and vote Republican again. And in the likely event that Trump goes for a third term, they’ll just be racist again.
Off topic: I fucking hate this meme format. Can’t bother to really explain why.
It’s a fantastic format from a docuseries on David Beckham.
From: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/david-beckhams-be-honest-thank-you#origin
On October 4th, the documentary series BECKHAM about the life and career of the British football player David Beckham premiered on Netflix. During an interview with Beckham’s wife Victoria, “Posh Spice” of the Spice Girls band, Victoria tells the interviewer that both she and her husband came from working-class families, with David interrupting and telling her to be honest, with Victoria reluctantly admitting that her father had a Rolls-Royce:
- [Victoria] We both come from families that worked really hard. Both of our parents work really hard. We’re very working, working class.
- [David] Be honest.
- [V] I am being honest!
- [D] Be honest.
- [V] I am being honest!
- [D] What car did your dad drive you to school in?
- [V] So, my dad did-
- [D] No. One answer. What car was it?
- [V] It’s not a simple answer because-
- [D] What car did your dad drive you to school in?
- [V] It depends…
- [D] No, no, no, no, no.
- [V] Okay, In the 80s, my dad had a Rolls-Royce.
- [D] Thank you.I’d say this is an incorrect usage of the format and is really pushing the narrative too strongly from the guy.
Hmmmm let’s see… Calling them all racist/sexist and stupid didn’t work in 2016 or in 2024… It barely worked in 2020… Let’s keep doing it even more! I’m sure that will end the political divide of this country.
I know that calling all of them them stupid, racist and sexist makes it super easy to avoid having any actual dialogue with them, but it sure as shit isn’t going to help help Democrats or progressives gain any ground in the long run.
And before anyone responds with “well we can’t/won’t have dialogue with fascists” I will preemptively tell you that you are completely missing my point.
Simply because YOU labeled all of them as fascists or you were told by someone else that they were that way doesn’t mean it’s actually true.
You can’t expect to defeat an enemy if you don’t understand them or evaluate them correctly.
Sorry you’re butthurt by OP pointing out reality. Do you also flip out when someone points out that rain is made up of water?
Pretty concerning that you think that the OP is accurately representing reality.
Also your analogy doesn’t really work the way you were hoping because rain isn’t pure water. It’s actually got a bunch of other things mixed in there too.
Kinda like how not everyone that exists to the right of your particular position is a racist/sexist idiot. I’m sure plenty of them are, but to say that they all are is disingenuous and you know it.
You’re right, of course. They’re not ALL stupid racists. Much like rain also contains miniscule portions of debris which the water forms droplets around, MAGA also contains a core component of incredibly evil people, and a few run-of-the-mill racists of average intelligence.
A+ for turning the analogy back around to suit your needs. I suspected you would do precisely that.
Unfortunately you’re still clearly entirely missing the point of my original comment.
When you lose 2028 and 2032 dont come crying to me.
Why on earth would I ever want to talk to you again?
Did you learn nothing from Hilary? Insulting people doesn’t gain you support.
Trump and conservatives: insult and mock everyone and everything on the left
Trump, conservatives, and centrists: “Play nice! You guys are so mean. You’re losing my vote.”
I’m so fucking tired of this shit
If someone votes for a racist because their feelings got hurt by being insulted, then they’re a stupid racist, full stop.
🤦
It’s worked well for the republicans for quite some time. Different voter base I guess.
The USA wont survive till the next election at this rate so who cares?
(Also how did you even find this place)
You guys have elections?
Insulting her base was her AND Harris’ mistake. Don’t try and convince conservatives they can vote for you, they never will.
Not true, Obama and Biden.
Is this the campaign trail?
