• pazukaza@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    Hey, you’re entitled to your opinion. I’ve been treated like shit for saying I think the limit should be 16 weeks instead of 24. It is a spectrum, and all sides have valid arguments, which is why this is such a divisive matter. Some people say masturbation is killing potential lives. Some people say that there should be no limit for abortion, abort whenever.

    I understand your point, you think terminating a human life is wrong, which is a natural human response. I think most people also feel the same way, but they give more importance to other matters. Maybe you should try understanding the people in the other positions of the spectrum. Sometimes people make mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women get raped, families can’t financially take care of a new child, birth control fails… It’s easy to judge them until you’re in their position.

    • Blamemeta@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      21
      ·
      1 year ago

      Here’s the thing, I get it. The condom breaks, birth control fails, shit happens. But it’s still murder. If someone gets drunk, and accidentally kills someone, they don’t get let off the hook. If they build something, and they fuck up, and someone dies, that’s homicidal negligence, and they aren’t let off the hook. In almost every abortion case, it’s due to making mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women getting raped, families can’t financially take care of a new child, birth control fails, just like you said. And that’s no excuse for homicide. Only real thing is self-defense, and I guess you can argue that if the mother’s life is truly in danger.

      • pazukaza@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        Everything is what we decide it is. You have decided killing a fetus is homicide, that’s your interpretation. It isn’t like that for other people. Other people have adopted other definitions of what life is. When does a human life start? It starts when we say so. It is a continuous transition, not a discrete set of steps.

        For you a human life starts at a point, for them it starts at a different point. Who is right? Neither. That’s just a matter of opinion and semantics. Which is why I gave the example of the people who think jerking off is a sin because “you shall not waste your seed” or whatever.

        You are trying to protect the life of a future human, they are trying to protect the freedom of women. You have different priorities.

        My whole point is… You just shouted an opinion and got shouted opinions back at you. What’s the point? Just vote for whoever you think will make the change you want to see. It is your right. It is also their right.

      • BigPapaE@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago
        1. Neither of your scenarios are murder. They are both manslaughter, for which negligence must be demonstrated.
        2. Both murder and manslaughter must be committed against a person, which an embryo is not