I’m sure many (most?) people would want to stop/reduce climate change before this gets worse.
However line-must-go-up capitalism says no, because money.
Under our current capitalist system, until it affects quarterly reporting I don’t see significant change coming from corporations. On the contrary, corporations will resist change because change is risky and expensive.
Nothing we could conceivably do could ever possibly prevent that entirely. Shit is going to get BAD no matter what we do. We are still maybe able to prevent our extinction/near-extinction in the coming centuries. But famine and disease will be rampant once again in every country. Borders will be guarded with machine guns that are used liberally in many modern western countries.
Well think it through. Even if the world heats up by 10°C, Antarctica will still be at a livable temperature. People will eek out an existence there like living on Mars, with greenhouses and suits to go outside. It won’t last forever though. Civilization collapse within 50 years, but full extinction will take some time.
I have considered it as a reason his masters planted that in his head, yes. Or it could just be something he said once and then dementia latched on to it.
our ecosystems are a lot more fragile than you think. there are more moving parts than you think of. things like soil microbiomes and air composition. 10c would ruin everything. temperature effects everything.
but also our climate is a lot more volatile than we previously thought. just about every year we learn about a new black swan ‘we are fucked’ from climate scientists. a new feedback loop, a new ledge we’re about to jump off. humanity might live another 100 years, in some ragged fucked capacity like you said, but it will not live 200.
I am fully on board with you. When I said humanity would live a few hundred years I meant “there is at least one human alive in some vault somewhere.” It’s entirely possible that you are right, and it’s certain that 99% will be dead in the time you laid out, I just think that it’s surprisingly difficult to kill 100% of anything.
When the food starts running out, legal immunity won’t do shit.
maybe we should try to keep it from getting to that point?
like, we could. we could skip the part where the living envy the dead. or at least try skipping that part?
please?
I skimmed over your line “living envy the dead” - that’s an awesome turn of phrase.
thanks! it’s been kicking around for a while; I just picked it up.
I’m sure many (most?) people would want to stop/reduce climate change before this gets worse.
However line-must-go-up capitalism says no, because money.
Under our current capitalist system, until it affects quarterly reporting I don’t see significant change coming from corporations. On the contrary, corporations will resist change because change is risky and expensive.
the way you skip the part where the living envy the dead is by killing billionaires.
the end result, if we fail, is the same as if we never tried, but maybe less miserable and drawn out.
Nothing we could conceivably do could ever possibly prevent that entirely. Shit is going to get BAD no matter what we do. We are still maybe able to prevent our extinction/near-extinction in the coming centuries. But famine and disease will be rampant once again in every country. Borders will be guarded with machine guns that are used liberally in many modern western countries.
I did say try.
and centuries. plural. that’s pretty optimistic.
Well think it through. Even if the world heats up by 10°C, Antarctica will still be at a livable temperature. People will eek out an existence there like living on Mars, with greenhouses and suits to go outside. It won’t last forever though. Civilization collapse within 50 years, but full extinction will take some time.
Could this be the real reason Trump is adamant about annexing Groenland and Canada?
I have considered it as a reason his masters planted that in his head, yes. Or it could just be something he said once and then dementia latched on to it.
yeah I don’t think it’s going to be 200 years.
our ecosystems are a lot more fragile than you think. there are more moving parts than you think of. things like soil microbiomes and air composition. 10c would ruin everything. temperature effects everything.
but also our climate is a lot more volatile than we previously thought. just about every year we learn about a new black swan ‘we are fucked’ from climate scientists. a new feedback loop, a new ledge we’re about to jump off. humanity might live another 100 years, in some ragged fucked capacity like you said, but it will not live 200.
I am fully on board with you. When I said humanity would live a few hundred years I meant “there is at least one human alive in some vault somewhere.” It’s entirely possible that you are right, and it’s certain that 99% will be dead in the time you laid out, I just think that it’s surprisingly difficult to kill 100% of anything.
I think if the magnetosphere pops, and we rapidly lose a bunch of atmosphere, we might lose 100% of everything in about a day.
Please explain how that could happen? Because it would take a hell of a lot of energy to stop the rotation of the core