Hi all!

I’ve already posted, that the account of my nephew got deleted on his main server and he is pretty devastated because of that.

As he only wants to build things with his friends, I’m starting to think about renting and setting up a VPS, as I’m still having a pretty much unused reserved domain lying around, which I could use for that.

Is that much work to get working (would be running on a Linux server) and is it time consuming to maintain?

And what should I expect hardware wise?
So what would the requirements be?

Maybe some background:
I’m a software developer for real-time Linux applications and I’m running my own business server with a VM as a Wireguard every point into my business network, and then some Docker containers for stuff I need.
I’m not that relaxed with server stuff like that, but I usually get it working and it does what I need.
So, I guess, I should be technically equipped enough to setup a Minecraft server.
But I don’t have that much time on hand to really care for it, if it needs like weekly attention.
That’s why I wanted to ask, what the timely expense/effort would be, so I could guarantee him and his friends with a stable virtual world.

Thank you all again advance!
The last answers here were really helpful and so I’m really grateful to such a nice community!

  • randomname@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    just gonna recommend for running a server that you use fabric with performance mods (lithium is the most important) instead of paper or similar server versions.

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      5 days ago

      Ok, first off, thank you very much for the input the important terms to search for

      I’m pretty much not computer illiterate, but that seems very Minecraft specific
      Could you give me some links or so to look for?

      Fabric, lithium and paper are all very much generally used terms and I need a bit of a hand here to know, what I’m looking at

      Are those different Minecraft server revisions, like Proton forks, or what do those names mean?

      Thank you very much for any clarification or hints where I could look into more detailed explanations!

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        3 days ago

        So basically there is different modified versions of Minecraft for different purposes. Paper is specifically for hosting non-modded servers on lower end machines, but it changes some systems of Minecraft in undesirable ways, and only supports simple “plugins”. Fabric and Forge are the popular “mod loaders”, they are made to allow you to install mods to Minecraft, which includes mods like Lithium and Sodium that massively increase Minecraft’s performance.

        with the right combination of performance enhancing mods you can increase Minecraft’s fps tenfold, without sacrificing any features or changing the gameplay. I run a massive custom modpack with tons of content and graphics mods, and it actually runs better than vanilla Minecraft because of the performance mods.

        The performance mods I use for fabric are: Lithium, Sodium, Enhanced Block Entities, More culling, Ferrite Core, Immediately Fast, Modern Fix, Memory Leak Fix, Concurrent Chunk Management System, Noisium, Bad Optimizations, and Let Me Despawn.

        There is plenty more performance mods out there that optimized more niche parts of the game, but these are the important ones (that I use). Lastly I don’t think a VPS is necessary because Minecraft servers can usually be run on even low end hardware, like a raspberry pi.

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            3 days ago

            glad to help!, I thought I should mention real quick that if you decide to play around with mods that run on both the client and server side, Prism Launcher is by far the best way to manage modded instances of Minecraft. allowing you to easily download modpacks or create and export your own. I wouldn’t use the default launcher if you decide to use mods on the client.

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    9 days ago

    I’m running a container of https://github.com/itzg/docker-minecraft-server in my basement (the bedrock one)

    Also running containers: mcxboxbroadcast and Minecraft-bedrock-backup, for connectivity and backups.

    Once they are up, I’ve ignored them mostly.

    Edit: it’s running on a Lenovo m910q in the basement with a ton of other services on the same machine. So far no complaints.

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      9 days ago

      That’s really encouraging, thank you very much!

      As his friends usually play on windows and only he inherited my Linux laptop, I’d go with the Java variant.

      But to be honest, I’ve absolutely no clue, when it comes to Minecraft and don’t really know what’s compatible with what…

      And when I set up a server for them, I’d like to make it also technical interesting, so they can extend their world with mods - which, as far as I know, are existing and manifold

      Are such mods restricted to the respective version?
      Means, are there many differences between bedrock and Java?

      Really appreciate your input, thank you!

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        9 days ago

        While there are some client-side mods, they have limited functionality and are mostly cosmetic. For “modded” Minecraft you need to run the mods server-side. The easiest way to do this is to download the server packs from Curseforge and run one of those. Once running, they’re pretty-much maintenance free. You can update when the server packs update, but unless they’re critical updates, it’s up to you if you do it or not (when you do, you need to ensure the clients are updated to the same version; which they can do easily with Curseforge) Set up scripts for backups and server reboots every so often and you’re good.

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          9 days ago

          Thank you very much!

          As my nephew is 11 years old, I’m afraid, I’ll need to check how he and his friends are keeping their clients up to date.

          But currently I’m awaiting their answer, what they would say to having their own server

          As the only criticism was, that it will cost some money (which would be my responsibility and seems to be not a fortune I need to spent), I think, that this could be the way to go.

          Because I can just imagine how painful it must be, to lose all the invested time and work, just because of maybe some misunderstanding or by just being at the mercy of the server admin.

          So thank you very much again, let’s see, if I can create them a happy place to play together :⁠-⁠)

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    9 days ago

    I’m running a server for 4 years now. It’s a small server. But I’ve seen everything. Be prepared for every eventuality. You will need to apply at least some level of moderation. Kids can be very toxic. But also: don’t overdo it. Kids hate being moderated.

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      5 days ago

      Thanks, sounds reasonable

      Sorry for the late answer, had some hard private times, with my cat dying
      So I’m currently mostly focused on getting over that…