Summary
A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn’t have to follow the judge’s oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn’t in writing.
Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing “national security concerns.”
Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”
Did he suffer any serious consequences, No, then why the fuck wouldn’t he disregard it and will continue to do so in the future. Why are people in power in this country either evil and inept or simply inept against the evil ones
Lay out the alternative for us.
Alternative to what?
Following through with the judicial processes laid out in the constitution
Are they doing that thought?, I see news about the constitution being subverted everyday but I don’t see any concrete actions being taken to punish those doing so, and stop it from happening, this country is headed towards a dictatorship and politics are writing strongly worded letters and holding protest placards up as if that does anything
The next step up from ignoring federal judges goes one of two ways. US marshals arrest the president or it plays out like Hans litten.
US is fucked. Nobody in US cares anymore, because if they did they’d be out on the streets by the millions.
Chicken shit judge
A strongly worded email is the best they could do?
Oh snap he GRILLED him!?!? Damn! Trump is going down!!! #RESIST
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Lol
‘You felt you could disregard it?’
Narrator: He did.
Correct me if I’m wrong but what could the judge even do to these DoJ staff? Throw them in jail for a few days? Trump would just pardon them, wouldn’t he?
Public/private reprimand is the first step I think. The judge could also probably suspend their license, or possibly influence their getting disbarred if the lawyer fucks up enough. Probably couldn’t throw them in jail unless they were accused of a crime, but that would only be pardonable if it was a federal crime.
I’m sure they’ll cry “partisanship”, but put them in jail if relevant. I imagine at least some will be dissuaded by charges and prison even if they can count on a pardon. At least some will be kept out of politics after our four years of hell, even if they can count on a pardon. Even in the very worst case scenario where they get away with everything, legitimate charges will help cement the legacy as the most corrupt president ever.
I’m sure they’ll cry “partisanship
They already are.
Are we still pretending this matters anymore?
Show cause why I shouldn’t throw your ass in the klink. That’s what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.
He can’t be charged with a crime while in office or for anything he does in office. So, that’s why.
so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.
that’s what a law that wasn’t just an excuse to punish poor people would do.
or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don’t mean things, laws don’t mean things. that includes his special protection.
but again, that would require the point of the law to be something other than punishing the poor.
I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.
yeah. fuck my life. taking bets on how long I last before they kill me. ill have betting tables up in the morning.
Hmmm… what color are you? Could be a matter of months… (hopefully not)
I think I count as ‘swarthy’ and white depending on the century.
but also I’m visibly queer and very loud about lefty politics.
Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.
For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.
I wonder how long I’ll survive as an Asian American…
Asian Americans are the smallest minority in the US, so that’s not looking good. I’m wondering if the so called “Model Minority” sterotype would help (I mean like East Asians, specifically).
Philly btw. Hopefully Shapiro isn’t fucking spineless like the rest of the dems (doubt), but like the federalism is really the only safeguard left.
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Get armed and look up your local Ironfront or indivisible chapter. You are not alone, United we stand. Divided we fall.
Indigenous aren’t the smallest minority?
The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.
…nowadays?
And the “just following orders” folks?
I’m in the guillotine crowd, so I say “everyone,” but I’m not holding my breath there will be any.
So the second amendment is our only option?
Going to amuse me when the left picks up the 2nd amendment they have been talking shit about my whole life and use it for its intended purpose to kill a tyrant. This whole timeline makes my brain hurt
Unless you’ve got another option….
You guys are maybe being a little hasty… Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has “immunity.”
Let me know when that happens.
And let me know when you second amendment types actually do something. 👍
You mean the people who wish death on people who are absolutely destroying humanity? Or, gun people? Because, I don’t own a gun. 🤷♂️
Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”
Written orders probably won’t carry any weight either since he probably can’t read even if he attempted to.
I’m waiting for people to connect the dots around my town. People’s rights begin with legislation and end with judicial decision. Being that the bill of rights is being overridden by the executive branch right now, judges have said so and the executive branch is saying they don’t care, it is fairly obvious the bill of rights no longer matters. So pick any amendment you like from the bill or rights, free speech, free press… Right the bear arms. Yup, gone. The conservatives nullified the right to bear arms and is cheering for it. By the time they think they should speak out about it, well they’ll maybe realize they already cheered for the loss of their freedom of speech. Oops
He shouldn’t be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.
This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances
It also forces Trump’s hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.
If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.
Yeah, slow nibbling at fascism is how the world got Hitler. Out the despot now.
Throw. That. Lawyer. In. PRISON. There may be no way to enforce the law on Trump himself, but make lawyers afraid to do his dirty work.
Wouldn’t Trump just pardon them?
Make him do it. Make him do it over and over. New contempt charges every time one of these asshat lawyers refuses a lawful court order. Take up all of Trump’s time with having to continuously pardon his own lawyers.
It literally takes trump 20 seconds to tell an aid to start paperwork for a pardon.
After 8 years of watching the legal system completely and utterly fumble any semblance of justice against Trump, it is bizarre to see you hail legal action as the ultimate method of dismantling the Trump regime. Big “I think Mueller is still going to bring Trump down!” energy.
Nothing will change until the ruling class have fear in their hearts, and if the most obstructive and radical thing you can imagine is “waste trumps time by making him pardon an extra 15 people” also happens to be the prevalent mindset of other liberals, then yall are mega doomed.
Nothing will change until the ruling class have fear in their hearts, and if the most obstructive and radical thing you can imagine is “waste trumps time by making him pardon an extra 15 people” also happens to be the prevalent mindset of other liberals, then yall are mega doomed.
Did anyone say it was the only method on the table?
Fair enough. That was wrong of me to falsely insinuate.
However, I’d still posit that these sort of milquetoast strategies are so ineffective and distracting, that they ought to not be brought up at all since they defang otherwise radical people and distract from real solutions.
In other words, Trump and team would like nothing more than for the opposition to waste untold millions in legal fees (and weeks of prolonged court time) all to make him auto pen a document over the course of 15 minutes. These suggestions are worth less than nothing.
Nowhere did I say that was the “ultimate method.” Every single thing the orange asshole tries to do should be obstructed and interfered with in every way possible.
Make him do it. Make him do it over and over. New contempt charges every time one of these asshat lawyers refuses a lawful court order. Take up all of Trump’s time with having to continuously pardon his own lawyers.
This would be at best a minor inconvenience that Trump would just sign with the auto-pen that he’s going after Biden for using.
And we’ve seen literally dozens of Trump’s high-profile lawyers watch their careers end in disgrace once Trump no longer has a use for them. And for every one that crashes and burns, there seems to be two more willing to take his place. Especially now that Trump is immune from prosecution, making it much less risky for them.
The point isn’t really to inconvenience him though. It’s to cede no ground without documented abuse of power.
Absolutely. Make them show outright that they are using authoritarian tactics. Make it known to all that they’re fascists and that they don’t care about democratic principles or the rule of law.
Make every Trump voters uncomfortable and understand they voted to end this democratic republic.
He can’t pardon a disbarment, though!
No. You go through the bar and remove their license.
I don’t think he can. Courts have the power to hold people until they comply with a court order.
Technically so does congress although it’s never done.
US Marshalls, however, are a real thing and work for the judiciary.
Edit: ugh, they are responsible for carrying out what the judiciary needs, but it’s still part of the executive (DoJ).
I was holding hope for the US Marshalls taking action without the AG calling on them based on what they represent, but they have been helping the Trump with his illegal takeovers of DOGE even assisting with breaking and entering… So it’s probably unlikely they will do anything to assist with reigning in the president.
See elsewhere in the comments on this post. The judge can effectively deputize someone other than a Marshall if necessary.
Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.
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Throw everyone who implemented it in prison. Trump may have made himself an untouchable dictator but just himself.
Remember that loyalty only goes one way, unless it’s in trumps personal interest such as profiting from it. Make him go on record as either pardoning the criminals or dropping them
What about all the hardcore criminals he sent out, should we bring them all back and release them?
Of course not. The normal justice system applies; assuming they are legitimately suspected of a crime, they are held until they can be given a fair trial and their fate determined by just means. That’s how the system works to punish the guilty and exonerate the innocent. Your assumption that these are all “hardcore criminals” is a media product; how has this been determined? It has not. The only just way to determine it is with a trial.
And even if found guilty and justly imprisoned after due process, that doesn’t mean they can legally be deported. If they’re legally in the country then they’re legally in the country
“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
- Alexander Hamilton
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So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.
Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.
What are you on about?
- https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-constitutional-crisis-rcna196940
- https://time.com/7268948/deportation-surgeon-constitutional-crisis/
- https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-latest-deportation-venezuelans-sets-up-potential-constitutional-clash-2025-03-17/
- https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/17/politics/constitutional-crisis-courts-trump-executive-power-what-matters/index.html
- https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/us/politics/trump-constitutional-crisis.html
EDIT: Oh and just today…
You know what.
That’s sadder.
30% of us probably are okay with burning alive. It’s less work than living.
The US is in a constitutional crisis with situations like this, and so many people just don’t seem to care or want to acknowledge that it’s at that point.
I think the seeds for this were sown in the post 9/11 secret court system, in which the US govt authorized itself to break national and international law.
Even in that case, they claimed there was due process. It may not have been public or aboveboard but they claimed due process. Maybe there was, we can’t tell because it was secret. Worst case scenario, they pretended.
No one even pretends anymore.
This is even worse, I’m just pointing out that in legal terms the US has been heating this particular frog for quite a while now.
He didn’t feel he could disregard it.
He successfully disregarded it.
