That’s true, but in the liberal mindset, the majority gives you the moral mandate (liberal as in capitalist democracy, not derogatory). That the news and social media is owned and controlled by the oligarchs doesn’t matter to the liberal mindset. Even cheating like gerrymandering didn’t trigger riots and hanging of the culprits. It doesn’t matter that they promised one thing but lied, that has been accepted for decades also.
So within this mindset the majority spoke and has the mandate for this crap. Practically morality is determined by who has the most money / power. We accepted that greed is good. So it doesn’t matter that the election was cheated, elections in the US have always been a farce, a spectacle. But it is effective to get those institutions in line.
So I agree with you and think all the US elections in the last 50 years were illegitimate. But those institutions don’t, they simply follow this liberal mindset.
I’m inclined to believe it, but to know with enough confidence today you need academic sources and hindsight. But that would just be the natural progression of what the US has accepted for decades. In any case the mainstream doesn’t dispute the election, because Trump was smart enough to do that first (projection). So the reason why institutions obey the new order is because there is no alternative, and no ideological imperative to resist.
BTW here is an interesting analysis of the ideology of the techbro’s backing Trump, who actually do want to destroy the US. I’m kinda shocked how well this explains things, and haven’t found a good written article yet (but haven’t been looking).
I haven’t watched the video yet but I didn’t want to forget. Someone on Lemmy linked this article in a reply to me and I hope it’s what you’re looking for. It spells everything out and even has a little bit of hope in it. It’s quite well written to boot.
I thought blaming everyone but themselves was a conservative thing. People need to accept they voted for this, and need to do better next time (or now. Do better now).
Hmm, I thought shifting blames on minorities like Palestinians or Latinos was a conservative thing! ;) I do suspect this is agitprop like with tankies.
There are reasons for the outcome, found in how the rules of the system is set up and the emergent effects and resulting outcomes. These are not that unpredictable in hindsight. Fundamentally, how can you have a democracy without a good news media? (also you need prosperity and peace). So fascism is the natural outcome.
So I don’t blame people really, it’s more like the math didn’t pan out.
Look on the bright side. Your republican government has learned what works, and will never change and has even grown emboldened. And apparently the democrats didn’t learn anything either. The math is only going to get worse. Your government gets to do whatever it wants to the Palestinians or Latinos.
That’s true, but in the liberal mindset, the majority gives you the moral mandate (liberal as in capitalist democracy, not derogatory). That the news and social media is owned and controlled by the oligarchs doesn’t matter to the liberal mindset. Even cheating like gerrymandering didn’t trigger riots and hanging of the culprits. It doesn’t matter that they promised one thing but lied, that has been accepted for decades also.
So within this mindset the majority spoke and has the mandate for this crap. Practically morality is determined by who has the most money / power. We accepted that greed is good. So it doesn’t matter that the election was cheated, elections in the US have always been a farce, a spectacle. But it is effective to get those institutions in line.
So I agree with you and think all the US elections in the last 50 years were illegitimate. But those institutions don’t, they simply follow this liberal mindset.
What do you think of this? He lists his credentials at the end of the article.
I’m inclined to believe it, but to know with enough confidence today you need academic sources and hindsight. But that would just be the natural progression of what the US has accepted for decades. In any case the mainstream doesn’t dispute the election, because Trump was smart enough to do that first (projection). So the reason why institutions obey the new order is because there is no alternative, and no ideological imperative to resist.
BTW here is an interesting analysis of the ideology of the techbro’s backing Trump, who actually do want to destroy the US. I’m kinda shocked how well this explains things, and haven’t found a good written article yet (but haven’t been looking).
I haven’t watched the video yet but I didn’t want to forget. Someone on Lemmy linked this article in a reply to me and I hope it’s what you’re looking for. It spells everything out and even has a little bit of hope in it. It’s quite well written to boot.
I thought blaming everyone but themselves was a conservative thing. People need to accept they voted for this, and need to do better next time (or now. Do better now).
Hmm, I thought shifting blames on minorities like Palestinians or Latinos was a conservative thing! ;) I do suspect this is agitprop like with tankies.
There are reasons for the outcome, found in how the rules of the system is set up and the emergent effects and resulting outcomes. These are not that unpredictable in hindsight. Fundamentally, how can you have a democracy without a good news media? (also you need prosperity and peace). So fascism is the natural outcome.
So I don’t blame people really, it’s more like the math didn’t pan out.
Look on the bright side. Your republican government has learned what works, and will never change and has even grown emboldened. And apparently the democrats didn’t learn anything either. The math is only going to get worse. Your government gets to do whatever it wants to the Palestinians or Latinos.
Seems unlikely that there will be a next time.