I’ll add the Wikipedia link since the NYMag link is pay walled.
I’ll say this, it’s amazing what you miss as a kid, I lived there through those years and my pops was a Riker’s guard and the NYPD and DoC are very close, I’d bet my father was there with the rioters that day.
My take on it is these guys were a bunch of pieces of shit, they were rioting to protect themselves from accountability. They attacked journalists and specifically targeting a black cameraman to attack while calling him the n-word and other horrible things. It really shows you what the real motivations were here, they didn’t want to be held accountable by a black mayor, and then they started making up rumors of drug addiction about Mayor Dinkens, and probably pulled their whole “quiet quitting” bullshit where they choose not to do their jobs as law enforcement officers, just like we saw them do under Mayor DiBlasio when they didn’t like his reaction to what happened to George Floyd.
New York City will never be as good as we want it to be until the Police union, NYPD, and DoC are cleaned up, they’re corrupt, bigoted, and their propagation and support of the Nazi-like “blue line” bullshit and Trump makes them borderline treasonous, NYC has to do better, it’s time to clean up the police, unfortunately Mayor Adams is absolutely not the guy for that job, since cops just protect cops, and all that he’s done since he’s been mayor has been kissing the asses of his fellow officers.
As a former NYer, it’s not just the politicians that are rotten anymore. There’s a LOT of extremely ugly souls in NY anymore. So glad I moved away. It’s unrecognizable anymore, there’s so much me and mine.
I’ll let you in on a little secret, it’s not just NY at all, I’m not sure where you moved to, but if it’s suburban or urban you will definitely find more of these types of folks.
The problem is that people have become entitled AF, and they simply cannot deal with inconvenience anymore. I’d like to blame Trump and say that he enabled people to act like the shitheads they are, but we were just heading in this direction. Maybe there’s just not enough people smacking the fuck out of rude people these days, so they get away with being dickheads whereas twenty/thirty years ago somebody would have popped them in the mouth for being an asshole.
This is one of the reasons I was so glad when the “Karen video” trend started, we need some kind of accountability to stifle the assholes.
My kid works at one of our too many local Dunkin Donuts, she said she spends like half of her time getting yelled at by rude assholes, and it was the same at the previous McJob she had, and will probably happen at whatever McJob she moves onto next.
I moved from upstate New York to the greater Seattle area People are just as entitled here, for sure, butnthey feel a little safer or something becuase they don’t make it everyone’s problem around them. Usually. There’s always outliers.
Also I was kinda surprised/not surprised when you said you were from upstate, there are a lot of distinct differences from the greater area around NYC, but upstate has plenty of people with the capacity to be assholes, Rochester has gotten pretty bad, and my in-laws are from around Buffalo and they’re constantly causing drama for each other and getting into drama. Now with that said upstate NY is gorgeous, lots of great scenery, but also lots of outdated run down areas too.
I hope you enjoy Seattle, I have a few friends both from or living there and they love(d) it, also talking about gorgeous scenery Washington has plenty of that.
Yes, I truly love it here: coasts, deserts, mountains, rain forests, exposed ancient geology, hot springs, and more parks than you can shake several sticks at. Its not all perfect though for sure, the wealth inequality is absolutely astounding.
I’ll add the Wikipedia link since the NYMag link is pay walled.
I’ll say this, it’s amazing what you miss as a kid, I lived there through those years and my pops was a Riker’s guard and the NYPD and DoC are very close, I’d bet my father was there with the rioters that day.
My take on it is these guys were a bunch of pieces of shit, they were rioting to protect themselves from accountability. They attacked journalists and specifically targeting a black cameraman to attack while calling him the n-word and other horrible things. It really shows you what the real motivations were here, they didn’t want to be held accountable by a black mayor, and then they started making up rumors of drug addiction about Mayor Dinkens, and probably pulled their whole “quiet quitting” bullshit where they choose not to do their jobs as law enforcement officers, just like we saw them do under Mayor DiBlasio when they didn’t like his reaction to what happened to George Floyd.
New York City will never be as good as we want it to be until the Police union, NYPD, and DoC are cleaned up, they’re corrupt, bigoted, and their propagation and support of the Nazi-like “blue line” bullshit and Trump makes them borderline treasonous, NYC has to do better, it’s time to clean up the police, unfortunately Mayor Adams is absolutely not the guy for that job, since cops just protect cops, and all that he’s done since he’s been mayor has been kissing the asses of his fellow officers.
As a former NYer, it’s not just the politicians that are rotten anymore. There’s a LOT of extremely ugly souls in NY anymore. So glad I moved away. It’s unrecognizable anymore, there’s so much me and mine.
I’ll let you in on a little secret, it’s not just NY at all, I’m not sure where you moved to, but if it’s suburban or urban you will definitely find more of these types of folks.
The problem is that people have become entitled AF, and they simply cannot deal with inconvenience anymore. I’d like to blame Trump and say that he enabled people to act like the shitheads they are, but we were just heading in this direction. Maybe there’s just not enough people smacking the fuck out of rude people these days, so they get away with being dickheads whereas twenty/thirty years ago somebody would have popped them in the mouth for being an asshole.
This is one of the reasons I was so glad when the “Karen video” trend started, we need some kind of accountability to stifle the assholes.
My kid works at one of our too many local Dunkin Donuts, she said she spends like half of her time getting yelled at by rude assholes, and it was the same at the previous McJob she had, and will probably happen at whatever McJob she moves onto next.
I moved from upstate New York to the greater Seattle area People are just as entitled here, for sure, butnthey feel a little safer or something becuase they don’t make it everyone’s problem around them. Usually. There’s always outliers.
Absolutely there’s always outliers.
Also I was kinda surprised/not surprised when you said you were from upstate, there are a lot of distinct differences from the greater area around NYC, but upstate has plenty of people with the capacity to be assholes, Rochester has gotten pretty bad, and my in-laws are from around Buffalo and they’re constantly causing drama for each other and getting into drama. Now with that said upstate NY is gorgeous, lots of great scenery, but also lots of outdated run down areas too.
I hope you enjoy Seattle, I have a few friends both from or living there and they love(d) it, also talking about gorgeous scenery Washington has plenty of that.
Yes, I truly love it here: coasts, deserts, mountains, rain forests, exposed ancient geology, hot springs, and more parks than you can shake several sticks at. Its not all perfect though for sure, the wealth inequality is absolutely astounding.