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Australian senators censured Senator Lidia Thorpe for her outburst against King Charles III during his visit, calling him a colonizer and demanding land and reparations. Thorpe defended her actions, stating she would repeat them if Charles returned.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    41 minutes ago

    Is she sure she’s a senator? She sounds like government’s not for her. All this truth and vengeance is great for a private citizen with no access to healthcare or water inspectors or other trappings of the society in which she lives.

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      She’s right, but outbursts like this are the equivalent of activists throwing paint at the Mona Lisa. It makes that side look petulant and doesn’t effect change. If she really wants land and reparations, did she really think this grandstanding was the way to accomplish that goal?

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        No, not the plastic sheeting in front of the Mona Lisa! It’ll take minutes for a janitor the come wipe that off.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        I think she’s as fully aware as black and indigenous Americans are that she’ll never actually get what she’s owed, so she might as well tell the king that’s been forced on her people to fuck off.

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          The news coverage on this was the point. Bringing awareness to her people’s situation.

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          Noone’s forcing Charles on Australia. Aussies are generally in favour of becoming a republic, thing is they can’t agree on what kind of head of state they want so for the time being it’s gonna continue to be the British Monarch.

          There’s lots to be said about the failure of Australia to properly address indigenous concerns, literally nothing Charles can do about that but be a symbol to throw ire at to get some press coverage. He can’t even tell “his government” to deal with the issue, the thing he tells “his government” to do is whatever the government tells him to. They’re writing their own marching orders.

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            Noone’s forcing Charles on Australia.

            The aboriginals who ran the continent for tens of thousands of years before white people took over might disagree with you on that.

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              Last I checked Australia is independent, and last I checked I also said that Australia has to account for a lot of failures when it comes to addressing indigenous concerns.

              Nothing of which has anything to do with Charles who has literally zero power over the situation. I’m pretty much as republican as people can possibly be but let’s not blame on powerless monarchs what’s actually the fault of elected representatives. Gets into the way of holding them accountable.

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                No one said he had any power.

                That doesn’t mean he’s deserving of the title of king over the people who’s land was taken from them. I’m not sure why you are insisting he is.

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                  I’m not saying he deserves anything I’m saying he has no choice but to be the king, best he could do is abdicate but that only would put his son in the same position. It’s up to Australia to abolish the monarchy, not House Windsor.

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          Although its still too damn high, only 50% of British people believe the monarchy thats been forced on us is important.

          They are losing the popularity contest here too.

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        8 hours ago

        If it made Charles momentarily uncomfortable then that’s enough justification for me.

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        I think the whole point of acts like you describe show how you (people) care more about a painting than the continual ravaging of life on this planet by those who seek wealth and power.

        What does the Mona Lisa matter when more and more of the worlds population is scrapping to survive under constant threat of environmental and economic collapse and war brought on by the people who host and visit such works of art.

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          You’re right, that’s why thanks to those brave protesters, climate change is now a thing of the past! Oh, wait…

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              What an extraordinarily stupid argument.

              Gee, thanks. We need people to actually do something tangible and useful, not teenage histrionics directed at completely irrelevant things. For example, I volunteer with a group that recently obtained protection for a large wetland in my area. That’s something that directly impacts climate change and biodiversity. I also volunteer with my local green party which has successfully passed several pieces of environmental protection legislation. What have you personally done to help other than whine online and throw paint at inanimate objects?

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                Wow you’re so great! thanks to you, climate change is now a thing of the past! Oh, wait…

                (obviously, in jest. that’s great you do that. You probably should’ve said something like that to begin with)