cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

  • MyEdgyAlt@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Why do you think a life created by sexual assault is less valuable than a life created otherwise? Isn’t the resulting life the same?

    Thinking this through might help you understand the tradeoffs behind most abortions. Pregnancy is dangerous, childbirth is dangerous, parenting is incredibly difficult.

    A child could push a family into poverty and devastate siblings’ futures. How do you evaluate the harm caused by that against the harm caused by being forced to carry a child produced by sexual assault?

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      1 year ago

      A child could push a family into poverty and devastate siblings’ futures.

      A child can also be put up for adoption btw.

      • Raistlin@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Which often means shoving them into massively underfunded institutions, that are full of corruption and abuse, making it a less than ideal alternative.

        • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
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          Nah I’m ok. If she wanted an abortion she should have gotten one in the 20 weeks where she’s legally allowed to. Doesn’t seem like a hard thing to do.

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              You know this is a stupid argument, right? I’m not looking to adopt a kid. Many, many, many people are.

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                It’s easy to force a woman to act as a living incubator when you’re not impacted by it.

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                  Know what’s even easier? Not getting pregnant if you don’t want a baby.

                  I’m 100% pro abortion btw, just not “no restrictions at all” abortions. There is literally no excuse for someone to not get an abortion in the first 20 weeks of a pregnancy if they want an abortion.

                  • richieadler
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                    1 year ago

                    Yeah, not wanting a baby magically protects you from failed contraceptives and rapes.

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      It is not less valuable but the way it was created was against the individual rights of the mother.

      I agree abortion laws are about trade-offs as I showed in my example and that’s why abortion shouldn’t be legal in the cases I stated. Abortion shouldn’t be legal for anyone cause, if it was in a consensual relationship, the mother assumed the risk of pregnancy.

      The only lives that are less valuable are those which deliberately risk or take way the others’ lives.

      Also, thanks for being respectful.

      • Gabu@lemmy.world
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        The only lives that are less valuable are those which deliberately risk or take way the others’ lives.

        By choosing to be alive, you’re impacting all present and future generations, causing the deaths of potentially billions of humans and countless other animals. Do you see how your attempted distinction doesn’t actually exist?