• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    It is. There are 340 million people in the US. 70 million and counting voted for Trump. 270 million people is greater than 70 million. And odds are fascists are still the minority in that group.

    The number one issue polled for Republican voters was the economy. People bought the Fox News bullshit and now the economy is going to crash because of Trump’s policies. Musk said as much.

    https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/elon-musk-trump-hardship-austerity-taxes-rcna177732

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      12 days ago

      The issue is the remaining millions don’t actually care enough to vote. They are happy with anything.

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            12 days ago

            I like to think most people will have a wake up moment between being rounded up in death camps and digging their own mass graves. We need to organize to tell them sooner than that so they can do something about it before it’s too late.

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              12 days ago

              Donno, modern people seem to be content with whatever is happening around them. Last UK election we had fewer overall votes even though it’s still important. So far it looks like US election had 18milliom fewer votes than last time…

              I am distraught as to how people can care so little

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                12 days ago

                It’s the neoliberalism that tells people that they are at the end of history and their society’s institutions are infallible.

                I do not want to go quietly. I’m going be vocal and hope people are convinced.

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        12 days ago

        340 - (74 million children + 70 million Trump voters + 68 million Harris Voters) = 128 million nonvoters, some of who are probably not eligible for one reason or another, so a conservative estimate of 100 million nonvoters

        Regardless the worst case estimate from 2018 is 11 million people in the US are fascists. That’s a good ball park number to work with anyway. The nonvoters outnumber the fascists almost ten to one.

        https://www.vox.com/2018/8/10/17670992/study-white-americans-alt-right-racism-white-nationalists

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            12 days ago

            Things don’t deserve to get even worse because people let them get worse. This is why accelerationism is inherently a false promise, because no matter how bad things get accelerationists want to watch them get even worse. Accelerationism can’t make things better because the only way to do that is to actively make them better.

            It was never about stopping genocide because the US burning to the ground would involve the genocide of tens of millions of people and allow dictatorships to continue genocides and start new genocides all over the world.

            It was never about leftism because now the far-right is in the position to prosecute their political rivals and send the armed forces after their ideological opposition.

            It was never about helping anyone because now the Republicans can replace the government with MAGA loyalists and defund any social program that could have helped people.

            It was about destroying a country that shattered their self-image as a good person. Accelerationists felt like they had blood on their hands by association of being a US citizen and they wanted revenge for the damage to their ego. They were duped. The scam was different but they contributed to the same fascist takeover as the Republican voters who had been duped by Fox News.

            We have between now and the death camps to fix this. Start by learning this. We don’t live in a moral universe, but a physics-based universe. Acting in a way that feels morally right isn’t guaranteed to achieve the goal it is subjectively morally consistent with. But it is a way to be conned by people who will offer a way to absolve a person of their country’s guilt.