ID: A Sophie Labelle 4 panel comic featuring Stephie in different poses, saying:

Landlords do not provide housing.

They buy and Hold more space than they need for themselves.

Then, they create a false scarcity and profit off of it.

What they’re doing is literally the opposite of providing housing.

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    so are you advocating for zero private ownership of houses?

    like what’s the policy proposal?

    I do kind of like that other comment, " nobody gets a second house until everybody gets their first".

    • Amadou_WhatIWant@lemmy.world
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      23 hours ago

      100% tax on the value of land is the policy proposal. It makes economic sense, would let us abolish regressive taxes on labor and sales, would incentivize more abundant housing. Seriously. This is the solution.

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        23 hours ago

        how?

        a one-time 100% tax on the value of the land?

        how does that change anything except make landowning less accessible to everyone except those born wealthy.

        or is that the point, that you want nobody to own land at all?

        I think I need some more context here

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          22 hours ago

          Sorry if I was unclear. It would happen continuously, over time. So like monthly or yearly, just like rent to a landlord.

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            20 hours ago

            no worries, this is a paradigm shift, lots of details to get lost in.

            so you would pay 100% of the value of your property annually?

            how?

            how would those property values be estimated?

            I don’t see how anyone could have a home if they had to pay multiple times their yearly salary every year.

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      2 days ago

      I have a house. My parents have a house. At some point they die. I now have 2 houses…?

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          18 hours ago

          And how do people pay for that? How would it be different from today? What stops people from buying one now that would not stop them in that case?

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            17 hours ago

            I merely explained you the view of those you are talking with, I’m not well versed on the topic.

            Luckily, the answer to your question is once again easy to derive from what the other people are saying: the price would drop to a reasonable price if houses got stripped of their role as a form of investment.

            Or rather, as it’s often the case in this day and age, if the selfish return of a profit was weighted against the damage to the community and found not to be desirable.

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              16 hours ago

              The solution is to just define that the price is low, okay. So are there still incentives to upgrade, maintain etc. a property when the value is low anyway? Is the money you spend on something thrown out of the window as soon as it is installed on the house? What about great locations, how to value those? So all the things that already apply to the housing market, how do you want to circumvent all of these factors that go into the value of a property/house?

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                14 hours ago

                You keep thinking I’m the herald of this position…

                I guess there’s two solution, the pragmatical approach is that people aware of the issue increase the offer on the market. The market is still a market so all you are saying still applies but it sees a rise in offer.

                The other, more idealistic but also, ideal, is government intervention so basically you get to set up the rules any way it make sense on the principle of putting a roof above everybody.

                All this aside, do you fix or upgrade the place you live in simply so that you can sell it at a higher price? I do this stuff because… That’s where I live?

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          2 days ago

          BUT PARASITE PASSIVE INCOME! HOW DARE YOU PASS UP PARASITE PASSIVE INCOME!!

          :P