Errol Morris and Jacob Soboroff discuss their new film, “Separated,” which chronicles the Trump administration’s “Zero Tolerance” immigration policy, which separated more than 4,500 children from their parents between 2017 and 2019. 1,300 children are yet to be reunited due to incomplete information on their families, because “the idea was to avoid records,” says Morris.
Elián González is now an anti-USA politian in Cuba. And quite frankly, I don’t blame him. It’s pretty easy to see what will happen when you force a child to go through tramatic events resulting in the loss of family.
And the trump administration is 16-20 years after the Elián González situation happened. They could already see the results happen in real time by that point.
Long after this post is forgotten about by everybody, including me, we’re going to see some of these 1300 children today become anti-usa voices when they become adults.
And they’ll have fully justified reasons for thinking that way.
Elian lost his mother coming here and was living with relatives in Miami. His Cuban father (rightfully, in my opinion) wanted him back. His family here reasonably argued that his mother’s last act was to bring him to the US and hence he should remain.
The legal battle and ultimate decision he was to be sent back traumatized an innocent kid, but it’s not the same. The US was in the middle of a family fight where both sides were asserting viable arguments and the kid was a pawn. I don’t see that being a US policy mistake.
I was refering more to the part where federal agents breached his miami home, with him being about 6 years old, and having an assault riffle pointed at him as agents screamed orders and made his crying face one of the top news stories of the year.
That’s the part I was referring to. Not a legal court battle.
Show me another case of federal agents breaching the door, a team of agents with assault rifles, using helicopters with spotlights, all in the dead of night.
This wasn’t a case of CPS shows up at 2pm with a cop as backup. This was more like a swat team terrorist hideout raid.
This wasn’t about taking a kid back and bring them to their new legal guardian. This was about sending a message to EVERYONE that illegals aren’t welcome here.
This wasn’t a state/local issue, and IIRC the state said they wouldn’t help hand the kid back.
This was a case where the federal government was enforcing federal law, and the state stepped aside, who do you think the feds send when they have to enforce federal law, andy griffith?
Why would any Cuban politician be pro USA when said country is blocking every possibility of trade with other countries which results in food scarcity because Cuba is too small to do all production domestically and is therefore lacking in large scale farming equipment and fuel?
Elián González is now an anti-USA politian in Cuba. And quite frankly, I don’t blame him. It’s pretty easy to see what will happen when you force a child to go through tramatic events resulting in the loss of family.
And the trump administration is 16-20 years after the Elián González situation happened. They could already see the results happen in real time by that point.
Long after this post is forgotten about by everybody, including me, we’re going to see some of these 1300 children today become anti-usa voices when they become adults.
And they’ll have fully justified reasons for thinking that way.
Elian lost his mother coming here and was living with relatives in Miami. His Cuban father (rightfully, in my opinion) wanted him back. His family here reasonably argued that his mother’s last act was to bring him to the US and hence he should remain.
The legal battle and ultimate decision he was to be sent back traumatized an innocent kid, but it’s not the same. The US was in the middle of a family fight where both sides were asserting viable arguments and the kid was a pawn. I don’t see that being a US policy mistake.
I was refering more to the part where federal agents breached his miami home, with him being about 6 years old, and having an assault riffle pointed at him as agents screamed orders and made his crying face one of the top news stories of the year.
That’s the part I was referring to. Not a legal court battle.
They weren’t surrendering the kid, what exactly did you expect?
There were people screaming that they wouldn’t give him back and would fight anyone who came to take him.
It’s the south Florida Cuban community, surprised you have this position.
Show me another case of federal agents breaching the door, a team of agents with assault rifles, using helicopters with spotlights, all in the dead of night.
This wasn’t a case of CPS shows up at 2pm with a cop as backup. This was more like a swat team terrorist hideout raid.
This wasn’t about taking a kid back and bring them to their new legal guardian. This was about sending a message to EVERYONE that illegals aren’t welcome here.
This wasn’t a state/local issue, and IIRC the state said they wouldn’t help hand the kid back.
This was a case where the federal government was enforcing federal law, and the state stepped aside, who do you think the feds send when they have to enforce federal law, andy griffith?
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Pretty much every politician is anti US in Cuba. It’s a one party system and loyalty is the price for a paycheck.
Why would any Cuban politician be pro USA when said country is blocking every possibility of trade with other countries which results in food scarcity because Cuba is too small to do all production domestically and is therefore lacking in large scale farming equipment and fuel?
Because the ones here grew up hating those there and live in a state of fuck them.
You grow up in Flordia, you become a Florida man. It’s not like it’s white genetics that makes people bigoted; it’s the culture and the toxic media.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/18/florida-miami-cuban-americans-republicans
Exactly. Many people would say is “Why would Cubans be Republicans” but all I see is more Floridamans* from Florida.
*Floridamen is obviously not the grammatically correct term
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