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      Depends on the country. In Australia, the deposit is held by the government and the landlord needs to apply to get it, which includes showing receipts for any work they had to do. It goes back to the tenant by default. The system in the USA (where the landlord holds the deposit) doesn’t make a lot of sense as they aren’t really incentivized to return it to the tenant.

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        hey aren’t really incentivized to return it to the tenant

        Yes lots of landlords here just steal it as a matter of course. The US is basically a garbage country with a great military.

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          In Aussie but I’ve been living in the USA for 11 years. There’s definitely some bad things in the US, but there’s also a bunch of good things.

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            If you are on the bottom of the food chain there are basically no good things compared to other developed nations. I would shred my citizenship docs for a better choice.

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      I’ve always got 100% back when I rented.

      I wasn’t a piece of shit though and didn’t break things.

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        Yeah. I can’t think of a single place I rented that I didn’t get my deposit back on.

        Always makes me wonder what other people do to their houses to fuck them up so bad.

        I only had one time where they even tried to keep the deposit (out of about 10 or so places, I was in the military, so I moved a bit). I talked to them in person for all of 5 minutes and they gave up and gave it back.

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            I can promise you that the towns outside of military bases are almost always shitholes. I’ve had bad landlords. I’ve had one apartment complex that wouldn’t fix an exterior wall hole (that was present when we moved in). I’ve just never found myself in a position where I didn’t document something on move-in, and that they tried to claim that I did while I was living there because I didn’t keep my house like a shit-sty.

            I never made a claim that I never had a bad landlord. Just that I did my due diligence on move-in and move out and have never needed to give up my deposit. In my mind, you have to fuck the place up to lose it.

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          Always makes me wonder what other people do to their houses to fuck them up so bad.

          They installed the carpet with the seam down the middle of the living room at my place, then said it was my fault the seam started peeling

          Same place tried to charge me for 119 plastic window slats. When I asked my old neighbor (same unit type, 1 floor up) I counted 43 total

          I sent them proof of all of this along with the bill for my security deposit and another bit of maintenance I had in writing they’d fix and never did, they suddenly decided to stop hounding me for the bill but never paid. Wasn’t enough to bother in small claims on my end, sadly

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          Here let me help you. Landlords vary wildly in quality and decline quickly as you go down in price furthermore being ignorant of your rights or lacking in options due to money are both easy routes to getting fucked. Not understanding that people pretty regularly get fucked out of their deposits because you haven’t is like wondering why other people get raped when you have avoided it.

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            Let me help you.

            I’ve never once claimed I didn’t have shitty landlords. You seem to assume a lot of shit. It’s called “due diligence”. Take pictures when you move in. Submit the shit on the maintenance requests within a couple weeks of moving in. And don’t fuck the place up in the mean time. Take pictures when you leave. This isn’t a hard process and virtually everyone has a cellphone with a camera to do it with. Boom deposit kept.

            Comparing literal due diligence for moving into a rental to rape is fucking outright stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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              Always makes me wonder what other people do to their houses to fuck them up so bad.

              You figured people must all be doing damage to lose their deposit. Lots of people don’t understand what their rights are or what to do to protect them because the poor are habituated to the reality that they don’t have much in the way of rights.

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                Some of this, I can kind of understand… However, you don’t have to be rich to understand that refundable deposits are meant to be refunded if you take care of the place.

                Those 10 or so places that I mentioned while in the military… I was enlisted. I made between 20-30k… With some money for housing allowance. I wasn’t rolling in dough.

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                  The rate of burglary is 271 per 100k per year in the US but nobody doubts it exists. If the rate of weasels ripping off deposits was 1 in 20 which is incredibly high and you sampled 10 instances the chance of getting zero is 0.95^10. That is to say the chance that someone would rent 10 times in such a market and not have someone try to rip you off is ~60%. Your sample size isn’t meaningful even if it were random.

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        “This carpet that was stained when you moved in wasn’t stained before you moved in so I’m keeping your $300 deposit”

        Fuck outta here.

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          Fuck outta here.

          Nah, he’s right. You have a phone. It has a camera. Video the place before you move your shit in, preferably with their manager in the video even (when they show you the unit, or start the video when they hand you keys). When they claim that shit on move out show them the footage. If they bullshit you still. Small claims is like 30-50$ in most places.

          This is an easy premise. I still have the move-in and move-out pictures from previous apartments that I lived in from over a decade ago.

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            “Our inspector (me) found deep damage (the carpet is already ten years old and I claimed the exact same thing for the last tenant)”

            Be on your way, parasite.

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                Interesting and definitely intelligent assumption based on the text, person who doesn’t know carpet is considered completely depreciated after five years and claiming it as damage is fraud.

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                  Oh yeah I’m definitely not a carpet expert.

                  I meant with a temperament like yours, I can’t imagine why anyone would do you wrong.

                  ahem… THE ABOVE SENTENCE IS SARCASM

                  Since I you missed it last time I figured you might need a bigger sign.