Regardless of his intentions, it’s very aggravating how many of his clearly combative comments stay up despite “no trolling” being in rule 4.
I frankly do not understand why we have the rule if it is never going to be enforced. Is there question among our mod team about what constitutes trolling?
Looking through the modlog though, the only rule 4 enforcement seems to be low-effort stuff. High-effort trolling appears to be completely welcome in this community, which I just do not understand. But I’m contemplating beginning to take advantage of it. I can piss people off with subtle, passive-aggressive personal digs and logical fallacies while maintaining a veneer of civility too. It’s been a lot of years, but I’m sure it’ll come right back to me.
The only thing that really bothers me is that they put zero effort into rationally justifying their opinions. “Muh, my opinion, no matter how irrational and unfounded, is just as valid as yours!”. That kind of dishonest deflection is trolling but I abhor dragging mods into it unless it is necessary. I can deal with trolling.
Yeah, that’s an evolution from his earlier style. Note that he often subtly flips it to something personal though. Just pay attention to how often he talks about “you” and “them”. He seldom addresses facts or arguments, instead he addresses people. Individuals and groups.
What frustrates me is there is enough trolling on social media already, we should not be condoning it by simply allowing it here, in what is usually a more mature Lemmy space. We don’t need more internet-ey behavior on the internet, there’s already plenty everywhere.
He said my “intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights,” then posted a link to my conversation with him where I said democrats should be nicer and not such jerks to people who don’t agree with them. Then as a result of that comment, he revealed that as his big "gotcha!’ and quoted it as saying he found the real me.
Are you saying he’s wrong?!
Others have implied that I’m not even American, that I can’t even vote, and that I am doing Russia’s bidding. Are they wrong too?!
So is it actually possible that I am not voting for democrats because of my personal ideology after all?!
Knock it off with the straw mans. YOU obviously won’t change your mind, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t trying to convince others… out of a desire for revenge.
But wait, you made this big show and dance about how I MUST be doing this out of revenge, and you quoted our conversation? https://lemmy.world/comment/12396020
So I’m confused. What revenge are we talking about? Because maybe you know something I don’t?
Thank you! I’m voting for the candidate who best aligns with my values. I respect your choice to support whoever you believe in, and I encourage you to do the same!
OP has shown their intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights. Keep this agenda in mind if you read their BS articles.
Regardless of his intentions, it’s very aggravating how many of his clearly combative comments stay up despite “no trolling” being in rule 4.
I frankly do not understand why we have the rule if it is never going to be enforced. Is there question among our mod team about what constitutes trolling?
Looking through the modlog though, the only rule 4 enforcement seems to be low-effort stuff. High-effort trolling appears to be completely welcome in this community, which I just do not understand. But I’m contemplating beginning to take advantage of it. I can piss people off with subtle, passive-aggressive personal digs and logical fallacies while maintaining a veneer of civility too. It’s been a lot of years, but I’m sure it’ll come right back to me.
The only thing that really bothers me is that they put zero effort into rationally justifying their opinions. “Muh, my opinion, no matter how irrational and unfounded, is just as valid as yours!”. That kind of dishonest deflection is trolling but I abhor dragging mods into it unless it is necessary. I can deal with trolling.
Yeah, that’s an evolution from his earlier style. Note that he often subtly flips it to something personal though. Just pay attention to how often he talks about “you” and “them”. He seldom addresses facts or arguments, instead he addresses people. Individuals and groups.
What frustrates me is there is enough trolling on social media already, we should not be condoning it by simply allowing it here, in what is usually a more mature Lemmy space. We don’t need more internet-ey behavior on the internet, there’s already plenty everywhere.
Look at this trying to apply speech impediments to attack OP.
Yep, thanks to you, I guess maybe Harris has just lost another vote.
I was on the fence because of all the thoughtful courteous replies I was getting, but now…
Guess ya should have been nicer. Oh well. :)
Lol, there’s no way in hell your decision on how to vote was ever going to be swayed by the civility of Lemmy comments
But that’s what @[email protected] is implying: https://lemmy.world/comment/12396020
He said my “intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights,” then posted a link to my conversation with him where I said democrats should be nicer and not such jerks to people who don’t agree with them. Then as a result of that comment, he revealed that as his big "gotcha!’ and quoted it as saying he found the real me.
Are you saying he’s wrong?!
Others have implied that I’m not even American, that I can’t even vote, and that I am doing Russia’s bidding. Are they wrong too?!
So is it actually possible that I am not voting for democrats because of my personal ideology after all?!
Hmmmm…
Knock it off with the straw mans. YOU obviously won’t change your mind, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t trying to convince others… out of a desire for revenge.
But wait, you made this big show and dance about how I MUST be doing this out of revenge, and you quoted our conversation? https://lemmy.world/comment/12396020
So I’m confused. What revenge are we talking about? Because maybe you know something I don’t?
Your words, not mine.
Your exact words were “OP has shown their intentions are vengeance against Dems for perceived slights.” and you linked to our conversation.
What “perceived slights” are you talking about?
I don’t have to explain anything to you. Thanks.
I encourage you to vote for whomever you see fit. Write in Frank Zappa.
Thank you! I’m voting for the candidate who best aligns with my values. I respect your choice to support whoever you believe in, and I encourage you to do the same!
Oh I will! I will be voting for Harris, a candidate that can actually win. I’m excited about it! 😊
Good for you. I’m not voting for her, but I support your right to vote for her! :)
I cant believe OP is supporting a different party because he doesnt like yours. What a troll