• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        11 months ago

        Do you not know what the structure of China is?

        Serious question, do you? When I criticise the US I do so from a position of knowing how power works between its three branches of government, how the senate works, how local governance works, how elections work, how the courts work. Do you know how China conducts any of these? Do you know how they govern 1.6billion people?

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          It’s a one-party state with all candidates chosen by the party.

          It may wear the skin of a democracy, but it is not a democracy.

          • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            11 months ago

            the representatives are chosen by their parties in most countries, including the US. the difference is that in western “democracies” there’s two or more parties all representing the same interests - those of the capitalist class - posing the electorate with a false choice. how is this improvement?

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              11 months ago

              Let’s topple all fake democracies. China’s red-blue man owns US’s red and blue men anyway.

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                11 months ago

                Two Jews meet on the U-Bahn in 1935. One is reading a Nazi newspaper. His friend asks him “how can you read those outrageous lies about us?!” He replies “If I read a real newspaper, its persecution this and deportation that. But in this paper? We own all the banks, the movies, the government!”

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                  11 months ago

                  Classic but red flag (lol) conspiracy theory vibes in this context. Jewish people owning China or vice versa? Either way fits more in line with qanonists

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                    11 months ago

                    God could the point go over your head harder. That user wasn’t engaging in a conspiracy theory that Jews on all the banks movies and government, they were comparing your apparent belief that the Chinese government controls the American government to those antisemitic conspiracy theories.

                    Also zero points in an argument with a bunch of people who can’t downvote farquaad-point

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                11 months ago

                Though, in fairness, red man is actively hostile to LGBT people, migrants, and women whereas blue man is content to let LGBT people, migrants, and women suffer via apathetic neglect instead.

                Truly a vibrant political system.

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            11 months ago

            Imagine for a split second that the strongest government in the world is constantly attempting to cause the overthrow of your legitimately popular government, despite it being popular and significantly beloved by almost all people there. This external, most powerful government in the world tried to cause unrest in every possible way, including funding all opposition groups and organizations regardless of their violent/genocidal intent (e.g. Falun Gong, Islamic terror groups) and cause unrest on your borders (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Korea).

            What do you do? When good faith polling shows that you’re popular and fulfilling the needs and desires of your country’s working class but a foreign press tries to speak about the terribleness and need for overthrow, do you just let that happen with more money and propoganda than you can possibly provide to support yourself? Or do you censor the BS and report to your population that these images/ideas/orgs are actually subversive and attempting to change the government they legitimately love.

            In this hypothetical situation, what do you propose? Allowing the propaganda but claiming it’s wrong has failed in many projects, and resulted in massacres once fascism won (Chile, Indonesia). Just trying to set up a wall of no information works for a bit, but info can cross anyways (USSR). Allowing limited access if you search for it but not allowing it’s widespread propagation is the method of china. A VPN allows you to see it all, but it can’t be spread too widely before it is stopped from being viral.

            Do you have a better solution? Because this is how China presents itself and how the Chinese population sees it

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            11 months ago

            And in hindsight, not such a great person. Or at least had a lot of negatives to go along with his positives. Probably best to hard code not only a term limit, but an age limit on elected officials. I’m tired of the world being run by geriatrics. Culture seems to be consistently 20 year ahead of government.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              11 months ago

              Term-limits are blatantly anti-democratic and age limits are clumsy, but a cognitive evaluation and probably an MRI would be good for rooting out cases of cognitive decline.

              There is an informal age limit in China and Xi is still below it, though just barely. I’m curious if he’ll go for another term after crossing it. I think he understands that he needs to retire sometime – no one wants to become a late '60s Mao.