Update to Terms of Service + New Bylaws (Protections for users) - Lemmy.World
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Hey all, In light of recent events concerning one of our communities (/c/vegan), we (as a team) have spent the last week working on how to address better some concerns that had arisen between the moderators of that community and the site admin team. We always strive to find a balance between the free expression of communities hosted here and protecting users from potentially harmful content. We as a team try to stick to a general rule of respect and consideration for the physical and mental well-being of our users when drafting new rules and revising existing ones. Furthermore, we’ve done our best to try to codify these core beliefs into the additions to the ToS and a new by-laws section. ## ToS Additions That being said, we will be adding a new section to our “terms of service” concerning misinformation. While we do try to be as exact as reasonably able, we also understand that rules can be up to interpretation as well. This is a living document, and users are free to respectfully disagree. We as site admins will do our best to consider the recommendations of all users regarding potentially revising any rules. Regarding misinformation, we’ve tried our best to capture these main ideas, which we believe are very reasonable: - Users are encouraged to post information they believe is true and helpful. - We recommend users conduct thorough research using reputable scientific sources. - When in doubt, a policy of “Do No Harm”, based on the Hippocratic Oath, is a good compass on what is okay to post. - Health-related information should ideally be from peer-reviewed, reproducible scientific studies. - Single studies may be valid, but often provide inadequate sample sizes for health-related advice. - Non-peer-reviewed studies by individuals are not considered safe for health matters. We reserve the right to remove information that could cause imminent physical harm to any living being. This includes topics like conversion therapy, unhealthy diets, and dangerous medical procedures. Information that could result in imminent physical harm to property or other living beings may also be removed. We know some folks who are free speech absolutists may disagree with this stance, but we need to look out for both the individuals who use this site and for the site itself. ## By-laws Addition We’ve also added a new by-laws section as well as a result of this incident. This new section is to better codify the course of action that should be taken by site and community moderators when resolving conflict on the site, and also how to deal with dormant communities. This new section provides also provides a course of action for resolving conflict with site admin staff, should it arise. We want both the users and moderators here to feel like they have a voice that is heard, and essentially a contact point that they can feel safe going to, to “talk to the manager” type situation, more or less a new Lemmy.World HR department that we’ve created as a result of what has happened over the last week. Please feel free to raise any questions in this thread. We encourage everyone to please take the time to read over these new additions detailing YOUR rights and how we hope to better protect everyone here. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#80-misinformation [https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#80-misinformation] https://legal.lemmy.world/bylaws/ [https://legal.lemmy.world/bylaws/] Sincerely, > FHF / LemmyWorld Operations Team — EDIT: We will be releasing a separate post regarding the moderation incident in the next 24-48 hours, just getting final approval from the team. ### EDIT 2 (2024-08-31): #### We’ve posted a response, sorry for the delay. #### 👉 https://lemmy.world/post/19264848 [https://lemmy.world/post/19264848] 👈
  • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
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    3 months ago

    If you think you will eventually you should probably just do it, since you anticipate a future you finding it correct it seems that you anticipate finding each day you didn’t do it incorrect. So you probably owe it to yourself to conclude what you think you will anyway. It seems harder than it is, there’s lots of useful inspo over at vegantheoryclub and loads of people to answer questions you might have.

    I don’t really know what you mean re believer vs sympathiser. Like it’s not a set of strict beliefs. I assume like most people you think hurting others is bad, either you believe living beings deserve the assumption of sentience (i.e. that there is an other to hurt) unless proven otherwise or you do not. If you do not veganism would look like people avoiding skimming rocks lest they ruin the lake’s weekend, if you do then veganism is just living in accordance with the values you already hold.

    • destroyamerica@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      I have already concluded that a vegan diet is the most moral way to live life since before I even started using either site. I just lack the discipline and strength of character right now that I’m working to fix. I say only probably because I don’t want to promise something and then not fulfill it in a reasonable amount of time. as far as “believer” vs “sympathizer”: for me personally, I am unsure if the belief that is ok to hurt sentient beings in certain scenarios or de-emphasis on consumption allows for veganism. As far as believer vs sympathizer: generally, it’s someone who won’t try to resist or even will even help in some way the changes you (and your group) are making to society because they sympathize with you and your beliefs even if they dont necessarily agree with them. It’s a a concept I think more easily applied to socialism but I think it can still apply to veganism too.

      • NaevaTheRat [she/her]@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Re self discipline. I have faith in you, I mean I’m a human garbage fire; I am don’t get-out-of-bed some days depressed and a polydrug user just to cope with life. I manage! It really does seem harder from the outset. Mostly because all it requires is for you to not do something, it’s not like exercise (or even brushing your teeth :P) where you have to make yourself do a thing. You can live off pressure cooked beans and rice for a long time while you figure stuff out :) and there is a veritable army of us willing to help with whatever specific issues.

        I am unsure if the belief that is ok to hurt sentient beings in certain scenarios or de-emphasis on consumption allows for veganism.

        We’re not Jains! haha I think it’s fine to hurt someone who wants to kill someone if they wont stop trying and I don’t have better options. The literal definition from the club that invented the word is:

        “Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.”

        Nothing particularly consumerist or absolute pacifist or whatever in there. I mean some of the most based vegans go around sabotaging farms and shit. The reality is most of us are always buying things so a lot of visible veganism is seen through those small acts of defiance. This is the result of circumstance though not some inherent belief that all there is to do is not buy fur coats or whatever. All sorts of vegan movements take non consumerist forms such as research and development of alternatives (some small scale, like figuring out how to garden without manure etc and teaching others is vegan praxis), producing propaganda/investigating animal ag, rescue from and sabotage of facilities that abuse non human animals, working at sanctuaries, organising politically to further animal rights and so on.

        As far as believer vs sympathizer: generally, it’s someone who won’t try to resist or even will even help in some way the changes you (and your group) are making to society because they sympathize with you and your beliefs even if they dont necessarily agree with them. It’s a a concept I think more easily applied to socialism but I think it can still apply to veganism too.

        Ah that makes sense, thanks for explaining.

        • destroyamerica@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          4·
          3 months ago

          Re self discipline. I have faith in you, I mean I’m a human garbage fire; I am don’t get-out-of-bed some days depressed and a polydrug user just to cope with life. I manage! It really does seem harder from the outset. Mostly because all it requires is for you to not do something, it’s not like exercise (or even brushing your teeth :P) where you have to make yourself do a thing. You can live off pressure cooked beans and rice for a long time while you figure stuff out :) and there is a veritable army of us willing to help with whatever specific issues.

          I am unsure if the belief that is ok to hurt sentient beings in certain scenarios or de-emphasis on consumption allows for veganism.

          appreciate the faith in me! my biggest problem is getting the motivation to get up and feed myself at all (so much so I will not eat some days, and even go multiple days without eating), and I use my meat treats as extra motivation to get me to do it. Simplest solution is to retrain my brain into viewing vegan stuff as the treats of course… it’s better since I’ve moved into an apartment by myself because I’m way less nervous to use the kitchen. Once I finally get my apartment actually fully set up and cleaned up I want to start learning meal prepping so I stop eating out nearly as much, It is much harder to find vegan options and maintain discipline in the restaurants closest to my place (i very rarely go farther than 15 min by foot or 5 min by car)

          as far as my beliefs, what I’m trying to say is that I’m just not sure they 1 to 1 match with vegans. I dont feel like I feel as much guilt for eating meat as I’ve seen many other vegans describe, I’m not as sold on “animal liberation” and ending their exploitation as opposed to ending their suffering, that kind of thing.