How can us government can afford such largess, they should include disadvantaged communities somewhere

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  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    Oh wow now you can get a loan you can’t afford while you’re buried under a mountain of medical debt you also can’t afford. Thanks Dems very helpful

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      Here’s the thing: it’s working as intended. I think the intended path is to be so entrenched in debt as to be someone else’s problem that either 1) you have to go in on a whacky money making venture together or 2) die and leave all the assets to your children so they can then repeat the cycle on a grander scale. I don’t think being debt free is part of the wealthy equation.

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        Oh definitely. Interest on debt counts as GDP by the US metrics. More debt = more interest = higher GDP. It’s why one of the biggest contributors to GDP is the financial sector. The government has a vested interest in keeping as many people under as much debt as possible because it helps their donors make more money and helps “the economy” line go up . This is definitely just more of the same.

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    I’m sure the Apple News type apps will conveniently cut off these headlines at “eliminate medical debt” and leave out “as a consideration in credit scores”

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    when we went to get a mortgage (we lucked out it was right before the real estate price explosion) the mortgage company basically said medical debt didn’t count

    they just pretended like it didn’t exist because they considered it fake

    so what is this just formalizing this or something? i mean the whole thing is a joke

    also with the way various insurance industries are collapsing left and right i think the funniest outcome would be for the entire health insurance industry to collapse, be nationalized, and de facto made into a nationalized system because theres simply no profitability anymore. similar to where home insurance is going

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    Lmao this system as it currently functions is like “ha ha your pancreas exploded when you are poor banks will never allow you access to a mortgage” and people aren’t fully ready and willing to burn the entire thing down to the foundation. Americans are so cucked.

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    hahahaha she’s taking credit for that huh

    As other people pointed out, it is informally disregarded, and actually became a minor talking point earlier this year

    But even with the changes, some 15 million people — many of them living in low-income communities and in the South — still have medical bills in their credit files, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau reported. Rohit Chopra, the bureau’s director, said in a statement that “further reforms” were needed to scour medical debt from credit histories. The bureau is considering a rule to ban medical debt from consumer credit files.

    The proposed rule in question is quite literally for that

    The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today announced it is beginning a rulemaking process to remove medical bills from Americans’ credit reports. The CFPB outlined proposals under consideration that would help families financially recover from medical crises, stop debt collectors from coercing people into paying bills they may not even owe, and ensure that creditors are not relying on data that is often plagued with inaccuracies and mistakes.

    The CFPB bill sounds better than this garbage they’re trying to attribute to Harris lmao, so either they didn’t get all the details before trying to place it at her feet or she is trying to do something and it’s even less substantial than this.

  • HelluvaBottomCarter [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    If your medical debt occupies the same set as the manifold of real numbers as your credit score, and is continuous along all boundaries, you will receive a voucher that grants one small business to the holder during period of which your student loan is non-delinquent.

  • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Working-class people should avoid loans like a plague.

    The only (individual) people whom loans benefit are capitalists, landlords, and the like, as they can spend money to increase their incomes, meaning that they can take a loan and end up with more money than they need to pay specifically as a result of taking said loan.

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      Thoughts on mortgages (if one can afford them, of course)? Seems to me like the interest is a smaller price to pay than rent if you don’t intend to move for a while

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        Thoughts on mortgages (if one can afford them, of course)?

        Depends, but yes, there is a case for it. At least arguably, the same applies to student loans in places where you are basically forced to take them to get educated (I am fortunate to live in a saner place - I didn’t pay anything for my education, and was, in fact, paid (a tiny amount) to study).
        Nevertheless, loans are generally very bad for working-class people, and should be avoided when possible and when the alternatives are not even more costly.

        Seems to me like the interest is a smaller price to pay than rent if you don’t intend to move for a while

        In this case, you are lowering your expenditures elsewhere, so, in that case you do benefit.