A growing number of Democrats are calling on the president to drop out of the 2024 election.

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    4 months ago

    Has anyone noticed that the “gEnOciDe jOe” bots have mysteriously gone silent on the topic of genocide, and are now suddenly so concerned with his age and ability to conduct a speech?

    It’s amazing! almost as if overnight- they all got a directive upgrade and now have found an easier wedge to use to divide voters.

    If it’s not obvious by now what they’re up to- you’re either blind, or you’re one of them.

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      You call me a bot constantly and during our most recent conversation I was still upset with Biden about the genocide you support.

      Before you reply, remember that you also made a big deal about not reading anything I post, just like you made a big deal about ignoring me and blocking me, both of which turned out to be lies.

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      Bots who did not like Joe Biden still do not like Joe Biden, but now differently. That’s obvious. However, people who did like Joe Biden are starting to ask questions after that debate. That is new.

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        And that’s the purpose, isn’t it? A bot worth their own weight will be at least slightly convincing enough to persuade at least a few people.

        And they’re getting a good push from the media frenzy attacking him like he’s a sick shark.

        But whatever keeps the power on, right? American democracy can implode as long as news media makes a fortune off of an old guy in a debate against a convicted rapist/felon that didn’t even answer one question honestly. I mean…

        It’s a no brainer that the rapist did SO MUCH BETTER!

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          It’s also possible that people saw the debate and started asking questions on their own. Not everything is the media, the candidate is a problem.

          FWIW, I do not want Donald Trump to be president and I would just prefer a D candidate who is still mentally with it.

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            We’re at the point where we take ANYTHING over Trump.

            People are going to get hurt. I’ll take ineffective over a convicted rapist/felon any fucking day.

            If people don’t like this, maybe they should may attention and do more than whine every four years.

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              I think the point is that we shouldn’t have to vote for an ineffective leader to avoid a fascist convict. Out of 300 million people, we should be able to find at least one who can move the country in a positive direction.

              And, for the record, I’m not a bot…just a millennial who’s sick and tired of this bullshit.

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                look man, I get it. But sadly the point is- we do have to.

                What we “shouldn’t have to do” is irrelevant. Becasue that’s a daydream.

                And the reason why is as I said, there’s a ton of people that only become politically active every four years. And all they do is whine and yell at everyone who’s trying to keep the ship afloat that they should “put more holes in it if they want to keep things going.”

                Because not voting is exactly how things change. Note how history is rife with people staying home during events that changed history.

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                  Becasue that’s a daydream.

                  It’s an ideal. Which is exactly what we should be striving for. We shouldn’t have to settle for an octogenarian, ineffective leader just because. The man is losing in every poll and, chances are, he’ll end up costing us the election – worse; the country.

                  I understand why Democrats consistently settle for less than they’re worth, but fuck man…time is short. We need to stop fucking settling. If not for us, for our kids and their kids. Because if we just keep settling for “good enough,” we won’t have anymore “daydreams”; we’ll be living in a complete and total nightmare.

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                    It’s too late for ideals. Can you not see that? We have far too many people that slack-ass for four years at a time and then demand change?

                    It doesn’t work that way.

                    They want the benefits without having to do anything but whine for it- then they want to know how we got here. The system sucks. But whining about it and staring home during elections isn’t how it gets fixed.

                    But they know that.

                    So they’re demanding now that shit changes without the need to actually do the work. Essentially, democracy is being held hostage by people that won’t lift a finger to fix it.

                    Ideals would be nice if everyone payed attention and did their fair share so that we wouldn’t have to chose between the crypt keeper and a rapist-felon.

                    But that’s where we are now. So it’s either shit, or get of the pot so it can be fed to you.

                    I’d rather shit.

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      If you think there’s an entity out there devoting significant resources to running a bot army on a website with 10,000 active users you’re insane.

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        wait… you think I’m using the word “bot” to mean actual bots and not mindless human beings…

        Sweet summer child.

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          I think that because there’s an alarming number of people who believe that. Maybe you should consider your word choice if you don’t want to come across as some nut.

          Regardless, it’s pretty funny how arrogant you can be about your surface-level opinion.

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      We have not gone silent, he’s still the butcher of Palestine. And we’ve been talking about his mental issues before he got elected. But if you haven’t noticed, and you haven’t, none of these threads have been about Gaza or Palestine.

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        Yeah… you’ve gone silent. You trolls used to do nothing but talk shit about Palestine and cry to everyone about it. Now, it’s the he’s old and should step down.

        Not one of you suggest that Trump should step down because he’s old. Or even mentions that he lied on every answer he gave.

        Nope.

        Just…. BiDeN oLd!

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          Instead of fighting people pointing out his deficiencies you should be fighting your party to get him out of there. The DNC refusing to do it will give us trump again. Democrats refusing to believe he’s the problem will give us trump again.

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            Instead of whining only during elections, you should have been doing the work the past four years to help put up a better candidate.

            And withholding your vote as a threat isn’t how change is made. Pick up a history book- see for yourself.

            Then do better.

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              It’s not my party to be picking a better candidate. I don’t vote for fascists or capitalists, but I suppose that’s redundant.

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                Ahh… so you think you’re supposed to sit around and let others make the world a better place for you?

                Pathetic.

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                    Maybe I should do nothing at all about it and see how things turn out, right? Seems to be your suggestion… how’s that working out for ya so far?

                    Because from where I stand, it seems you’re getting Trump.

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      I’m definitely not in “genocide Joe” crew, I’m all for giving aid to Israel. Not concerned with Joe’s age either, but I am concerned that he’s got dementia and he’s running the US supposedly. If he’s not running it, we’re being played and if he is running it, it explains a lot of his policies.

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        SHIT! Took a look at your comment history…

        You’re a full blown Israel supporting MAGA conservative! I had no idea any of you were around here! Well played. It’s funny though, how your bullshit is indistinguishable from the far left’s bullshit.

        But then it gets less funny when you realize why.