China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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    … Are you claiming that people only use guns they handcraft? And not purchase? Because the chinese public gun market from 1870 to the massacre was almost exclusively foreign models.

    You tell the difference based on manufacturer differences. They burn and bend the casings differently. You can id which factory an SKS came from via that. Same thing for bullets, you can tell exactly which gun fired a bullet based on the damage done to the bullet by the chamber. Thats how cops can id which gun was used at the scene of a crime.

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      Wait wait wait, you think they handcraft SKS? Also, you clearly don’t understand forensics. The only way they can match is if they have the gun. You can’t match based on the bullet or casing alone.

      *Edit: Here’s a document on how forensics works.

      https://www.nist.gov/firearms-and-toolmarks#:~:text=What is forensic ballistics%3F,marks are like ballistic fingerprints.

      Key point:

      If investigators recover bullets from a crime scene, forensic examiners can test-fire a suspect’s gun

      They need the suspect’s gun to identify.

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        You said they handcraft them, dunce. Im mocking you for that.

        You need the gun to match the specific gun to its specific bullet. You can still id model and company of origin, often down to the factory via batching defects.

        A bullet or its casing would tell you what kind of gun it was, and who made it. Proof of russian made SKS, for example, would show that non military combatants were present.

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          I didn’t say anyone handcrafted anything. I said you can’t tell the difference between a Russian SKS and a Chinese one. You’re the weird one talking about handcrafting.

          Also, no you can’t tell the difference forensically from a Russian vs Chinese SKS unless you had the gun. They were literally made with the same tools. But you don’t know that do you?

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            I will repeat, people use weapons they create.

            Ok dunce, your comments are right there.

            If they were made in the same factory, you mean? Its the same concept as forensicall bullet to barrel matching. You are matching the casing to known micro defects of the regions manufacture.

            Different manufacturers use different materials for the barrel, or chamber, etc which alters how the bullet or casing is dented, burned, etc. Theres also some minor stylistic differences which result in the same thing. AK47s from russia in the 60s jam a lot, for example, way more than is normal. Something was wrong with a template, and the error wasnt caught for a while.

            This forensics was used in the middle east under bush to id who had participated in different fire fights, because different groups were supplied from different sources. If you know only the taliban has access to russian made weaponry, for example, you can use that to id where they were involved.

            Your handler should have told you all this, very embarassing.

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              Nothing you said is correct. I literally sent you a document that explains how it works. Your ignorance is astounding.

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                No you didnt, you sent a link to a 2 paragraph article-ette detailing how cops apply the science to match a gun to a crime scene.

                Thats just how local cops use it, not the only way to study post firing remnants. Cops dont need to know which militaristic force robbed your cousin, just if his personal gun was at the crime.

                This is like if you posted a mini blurb on how to collect rain water in your backyard as proof that the water cycle doesnt create fog.

                Ask your handler. Im sure he can explain this to you using pictures with bright colors.

                E: I actually went looking through that site, and while its not public access they go into some detail about how they are literally creating a database of gun type forensics. Literally exactly what I am talking about, down to gun year and difficulties vs obvious tells for specific models.

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                  Yeah, things they didn’t have in the 89s. Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you’re talking about. A database of gun type forensics. Yeah all those super computers in China back then.

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                    Holy shit, you genuinely are stupid. That single website is working on their own private database for american gun circulation. That is not the global database for all guns ever since the invention of guns. We have had ballistic forensics since the 1800s, and manufacturer tells have been commonly known since the 20s.

                    I pointed it out as an example from your source confirming that what I said was correct. Are you now calling your own source a liar?

                    Also… Hey, buddy? You understand databases are older than computers right? A database is just a collection of datapoints. This could be, and likely is, a stapled packet of papers sorted by company and model.

                    Oh, wait, let me guess. China didnt have paper in the 80s?