• richieadler
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    1 year ago

    It seems to be quite prevalent for something that you consider useless in itself.

    Popularity fallacy? Really?

    But still you claim knowledge and ability to assess what is real and what isnt

    I reserve the right to think something isn’t real until it’s proven to scientific and legal standards.

    and judge people based on the extremists in that particular belief system.

    No such thing as “extremists”. There are the believers (who follow the doctrines to the letter) and the cherrypickers, who follow whatever parts of the doctrine their own sense of morality and common decency decide they accept. The “good believers” tend to be the latter.

    you want to replace the belief system used to justify these with your own

    Stop projecting.

    I just want people to be more rational and stop believing supernatural nonsense.

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      1 year ago

      “I just want people to be more rational”

      “I reserve the right to think something isn’t real until it’s proven to scientific and legal standards.”

      How can you promote the latter and claim the former? Do you think something cannot be real unless is has empirical facts attesting to it? Do you reject logical facts? Like mathematics?

      Do you think that legal standards have an inherently rigorous basis?

      It’s really embarrassing to claim that you promote rationality when you almost certainly can’t provide a general description of philosophy of science.

    • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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      I just want people to be more rational and stop believing supernatural nonsense.

      But do you realize that every economic theory is based on that? So if you support the capitalist economy you believe in supernatural nonsense just as much like you’d do with socialism or communism.

      And for scientific proves. Please explain to me how Higgs Bosons are proven? You just believe that the people at CERN did a good job because you believe in the surrounding institutions.

      How do you consider people like Heisenberg? He said that the first sip from the cup of science makes you an atheist, but at the button god awaits. Is quantum physics supernatural nonsense now? After all unless you are a researcher in that particular field it is all just you believing people who believed someone who considered it evidence of some god…

      And that is where all this “Atheism is superior hurr durr” circlejerk breaks down. You end up in the same fallacies as the religious zealots because you deny nuance and take fundamental positions.

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        You just believe that the people at CERN did a good job because you believe in the surrounding institutions.

        OK, you’re either a troll or a fundamentalist, either way it’s useless trying to discuss anything else with you.

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          You claimed that normal Christians, Muslims, Jews or any other religious group are equal to radicals that commit atrocities in the name of their religion.

          How can you remain blind to the fact that you are a fundamentalist who is full of prejudice and vile against billions of people based on your personal superiority complex?