the new user has sent a nonsense, probably accidental report on a post! All gather in the town square for the public execution
permanentpilled revolutionmaxxer
the new user has sent a nonsense, probably accidental report on a post! All gather in the town square for the public execution
RCP can’t stop winning just because CPB keeps embarrassing themselves on their own
Yes, but this is just the Canadian section.
That’s the point. “Unrealistic” demands that everyone agrees with yet which cannot be achieved under capitalism are good and should be made more often.
half of Russian communists do too, guess the Western propaganda got them as well
Also The Moscow Times despite claiming to be Russian is online published from the Netherlands. Yeah that is about as legitimate as Putin launching a Russian version of NYT lol.
Here is a Russian source if that is a problem, saying more or less the same thing: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6480674
Maybe via the rest of lemmy?
I thought the trots were supposed to be the splitters?
CPB, Communist Party of Canada, CPUSA etc. openly support stopping at a “two-state solution” according to the 1967 borders (note: only the last article is older than a month)
I sleep
Canadian branch of the IMT posts cringe 14 years ago, said cringe being hardly representative of the rest of the IMT’s articles on Palestine
Kill all trots immediately
Isimaginary, even
“Fascism: what it is and how to fight it” - where Trotsky says the complete opposite to what you are implying? From where are you getting that he called the USSR “red fascist”, when he instead demanded for its leadership to not equate everyone else with fascists in order to form a united front against actual fascism (a completely valid criticism given any amount of historical hindsight whatsoever)? Surely, if Trotsky were to believe the USSR was “red fascist”, he would instead argue for a united front against the USSR and not alongside it - but he did not.
When I meet a Trot that supports AES, even critically, ill let you know.
You could meet more than exactly 2 trots then, instead of getting all your information on Trotskyism from Grover Furr. Or are we defining “critical support” as being without the “critical” part again?
It is the duty of all revolutionaries, but also all consistent democrats, to wage a consistent struggle against this criminal imperialist blockade and unconditionally defend the Cuban Revolution.
https://www.marxist.com/50-anniversary-sputnik-soviet-science.htm
We must remember what we are speaking about. We are speaking about a country, Russia, which in 1917 was one of the most backward, underdeveloped countries in the world. Within the span of 30 years, the Soviet Union was able to achieve what took the advanced capitalist countries hundreds of years to do and what many countries have as yet been unable to do. By the end of the Second World War the Soviet Union had gone from a backward, semi-feudal, illiterate country with little to no infrastructure to become a modern, industrialized, developed economy. By the end of World War II, the Soviet Union had become one of the world’s superpowers, militarily and economically, second only to the United States. A quarter of the world’s scientists were found in the Soviet Union, which also had a health and educational system equal or superior to anything found in the West - to the extent that she was able to launch the first space satellite and put the first man into space.
Excerpt from a 1940 SWP article:
THE SOVIET UNION REPRESENTS THE FUTURE
But do not the Finnish workers live under better conditions than the workers in the Soviet Union? Do they not have a higher standard of living and greater "freedom”? They leave the ground of Marxism who present such arguments.
One thing that every worker must understand is that capital ism is in a stage of decay and with it capitalist democracy. Whether in Finland or in any other part of the capitalist world, the workers face a choice between fascist slavery or the proletarian revolution. Capitalist democracy is doomed and whether it is this year or in ten or twenty years it will be destroyed by the fascists — or by the proletarian revolution establishing a higher form of democracy.
Finland is part of the decaying capitalist world. The foundation of the Soviet “Union, nationalized property, represents part of that future world of planned economy and the production of goods for the welfare of the people. In the last analysis the existence of the Stalinist regime is to be explained by the fact that the capitalist world still exists.
Let the workers destroy the capitalist world and Stalinism will have no base whatever. It will disappear from the Soviet Union like the scab on a sore from which the pus has been drained. The advanced Finnish workers, considering the historic interests of their class have no alternative but to defend the Soviet Union from the capitalist world.
Another quote from the same article:
History knows no example of a union defeated by the bosses in a serious struggle coming under the control of revolutionary workers as a result of the de feat. A defeat of the union by the bosses means the destruction of the union. To be for revolutionary defeatism within the Soviet Union is like being for the defeat of a union in a struggle against the boss. All the crimes of a reactionary trade union leadership would not make it any less of a crime on the part of a worker to follow a policy of defeatism in a struggle between the union and a boss.
Do you think the authors of anything in the above actually believed the USSR was the same as Nazi Germany?
The position of a majority of Trotskyist organisations is that the existence of socialist/workers’ states is objectively good for the world and they must be critically supported, even though their bureaucracies are steering them towards capitalist restoration. A minority believes that they are already “state capitalists” and therefore equivalent to the USA. But absolutely no-one sincerely conflates them with fascism.
What point is there to make?
This applies equally little to “modern Trotskyists”, and claiming anything to the contrary betrays a distinct lack of investigation with an overabundance of speaking.
Verification is trivial: pick your favourite trot website and look up “red fascism”.
Cherrypicking the most obscure text by Trotsky imaginable, even then proceeding to ignore all context of and exaggerate what was said, and then claiming modern Trotskyists say the Soviet Union was “red fascist” because they took their ideas from the above obscure text (neither is true). Magnificient.
The full paragraph, without anything omitted “for the convenience of the reader” (machine translated from French, because there seems to be no full English translation after a brief search - does that tell you anything about the text’s importance?):
Fedor Butenko took the plunge to fascism. Did he have to deny himself a lot? To fight against himself? We do not think so. A considerable – and increasingly important – part of the Soviet apparatus is made up of fascists who have not yet recognized themselves as such. The identification between the Soviet regime as a whole and fascism is a historical error to which ultra-leftist dilettantes are inclined, who ignore what fundamentally differentiates the social bases of these two regimes. But the symmetry of political superstructures, the similarity of totalitarian methods and psychological types is striking. Butenko is a symptom of great importance: he shows us what the careerists of the Stalinist school are in their natural state.
The context is that Butenko, the Soviet envoy to Romania about whom this paragraph speaks about, had actually renounced communism and defected from the USSR to fascist Italy earlier in 1938. To remark on the bureaucracy producing such people is completely different from shouting “red fascism” because a CIA-funded radio station told you to.
casually making up a “trotskyist” to get mad at
they always cry about “red fascism”
No, in fact Trotsky condemned the abuse of the term “fascism” (see: “social fascism”)
and are staunchly anti authoritarianism
Trotskyists have read Engels.
Wouldn’t a modern passenger jet have a much greater impact than a B25? The latter is several times lighter.
Ground effect would help: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_(aerodynamics)
They did quite well in WW1.
Speaking of that, was the Entente was completely justified in sending millions to die in the war? After all, previously you said:
I’m sorry, but when it involves one imperialist bloc invading a smaller country, then it does matter.
Not even one, but two smaller countries! Think of little Belgium and Serbia!
No, just as it would be unable to resist NATO in being turned into a far-right paramilitary-led banana republic if Russia were to suddenly withdraw without any decrease in NATO involvement.
But the beauty of the neat little trick above is that if the working classes of both sides correctly oppose their respective ruling classes’ interests, we can end up with a scenario where both sides lose - objectively the best outcome for the Ukrainian people, as well as everyone else.
The Russian anti-war activists are clearly holding up their end of the bargain. Why are you not holding up yours?
I literally said that
Russian anti-war activists have a correct position.
Are you aware that it’s possible to want neither NATO tanks nor Russian tanks in Ukraine?
You can even make sure you are consistent with both things in action 100% of the time - it’s a neat little trick called “opposing the position of your own government”.
In contrast, I love Maoists and MLs so much, they never ever ever ever fail at any of the above.