imo, it’s more stupid that there’s no mainstream news coverage about this ruling against FDA. i haven’t found a single site reporting about it. you?

Must be because of what i posted.

instead of the article being scrutenized (and educating people on how to detect pseudoscience) the post got removed.

At least i got a nice reply showing what was someone’s reason for doubting the scientific process of that publisher… before it got moderated.

Maybe it’s possible to use a flags of some sort, to indicate that, even though it’s a scientific publication and was peer reviewed, that this Lemmy community thinks it’s a bad piece. (but not by up/downvote as a downvote means it goes to the end of the pile, and the education effect is lost)

Like, i want to put this article under your attention, so that i get an idea of what others think about it https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282 But i’m afraid to post it, because of the possible backlash(i.e. moderation and maybe banning?)

Thanks. yes i realized the last one, and know of his work.

Looking at the “method”, it doesn’t look like rocket-science. I’d like to know, is the publication itself a fraud or not?

Thanks for the tip.

The internet page says “Potential predatory scholarly open-access journals”

So i hope at least a few read the paper and assess their method

The interview actually had much more interesting content…

ps. i’m talking about the Netherlands

didn’t/doesn’t address housing shortage.

The minister is doing the opposite because he doesn’t know market dynamics https://www.nporadio1.nl/nieuws/politiek/6dc70657-6081-480b-a2e4-7eddf8a17c37/huurwet-van-hugo-de-jonge-rijdt-meer-woningen-bouwen-volledig-in-de-wielen

increases taxation as a means to get more income flow to the government This is normal and a good thing? I’m also not sure which taxes you’re referring to? Our taxes haven’t really changed much recently.

The government shouldn’t be our babysitter. They’re increasing living restricitions and costs more and more.

Inflation is being dealt with… Things are nearly back to normal levels of inflation. You can’t say that it’s not being addressed.

Back to what? These days mom and dad both need to work for money to make ends meet. (and one of both can’t be home properly for the kids) That was different when i was a kid.

spends crazy(milions and bilions) on S.D.G ideals

and only for a possible 1.5degrees according to some model?! https://nos.nl/artikel/2472948-kabinet-trekt-28-miljard-uit-voor-120-klimaatmaatregelen-zal-af-en-toe-knellen

• makes it impossible for farmers to meet (Co2 etc)regulations
  • and government buys them out…
  • and Schiphol etc buying that land for extra CO2 credit.

Once again I need some sources on this, this sounds like something you heard and are repeating without taking the time to understand what was being talked about and now you’re trying to pass it off as fact.

https://nos.nl/collectie/13901/artikel/2455230-schiphol-group-koopt-meerdere-boeren-uit-voor-extra-stikstofruimte

has crazy ‘sustainability’ demains, which makes international production business move elsewhere

Not sure what you’re talking about here. Is this referring to businesses “offshoring” the production of goods? This has been happening for a long time and I hope that we can start bring more manufacturing back “onshore”

https://www.bnr.nl/nieuws/duurzaamheid/10551795/energietransitie-moet-in-de-versnelling-de-industrialisatie-van-europa-dreigt

increasing poverty. People requiring food-bank support is increasing, but because of increasingly harsh business environment the food-bank actually obtains less from industrie.

Yes poverty is up, but not for the reasons you’re suggesting(unless you have some new data I haven’t seen). food inflation is going to be the new norm until the world gets the climate crisis under control. Our global agriculture system is not built to handle the rapidly changing climate we’ve created. droughts, floods and war are likely going to continue to cause price instability.

The climate science isn’t settled to say it’s CO2 and/or Nitrogen etc. There’s documentary and books showing that there’s no actual source to claim it as facts. This books tries to find the actual basis for it but fails: https://www.amazon.nl/Niemand-Cockpit-stikstof-case-study/dp/9083271595

droughts, floods and war are likely going to continue to cause price instability.

Regarding droughts and floods in europe, maybe these privately subsidized parties are pulling the wrong strings…

• https://damremoval.eu Removed 8000 dams already, for what, letting water flow without restictions?
• https://rewildingeurope.com all kinds of plans to get rid of humans
• (there’s probably much more of such privately funded organizations)

Regarding Price instability > How about US taking responsibility for the Nordstream pipeline bombing. Biden has said plainy that he would. Why is it not picked up?

• many small/medium businesses are going bust because they can’t repay the corona-loan. (which many have warned is a slow death trap)

This is also normal? Many economists believe that economic downswings every 7-15 years is good for an economy because it helps wipe out under preforming businesses. if a company took out 60k in loans, and after 4 years hasn’t been able to pay back the 40k they owe (20k was already forgiving), and also can’t find a bank to move that loan to, they are likely not running a very good business.

I’m glad that we gave these businesses a lifeline during covid, but at some point they need to prove that they can adapt to the new market conditions. No one forced them to take these loans…

Government imposed lockdowns without constent. (which afterwards were proven to be useless).That means owners were left without income, increasing debt and staff with similar insecurities. How is that a good thing? imo, the government should have forgiven them the money. i as a tax-payer rather give them my tax-money than all the money wasted on the 1.5degrees without any proof of actual effect.

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i agree. as long as industry makes money the train keeps moving. But Toyota doesn’t bet on EVs. Sparks my interest.

Regarding concens. i wonder when the “green train” wakes up to the mounting recycling problem of

• lithium EV batteries,
• windturbine blades
• solar panels

right… what part?

in NL, the sun rarely shines and especially doesn’t during the night. and since there’s no proper way to store huge amounts of electrical power during the day,

• charging overnight isn’t an option
• we’re left to feeding the exess power onto the grid

Because they’re a non-democratic party, and they’ve cooked up a big plan which is being rolled out in all connected countries.

in NL, the government has committed already in 2015 https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/ontwikkelingssamenwerking/internationale-afspraken-ontwikkelingssamenwerking While there’s no money in SDG’s there’s an enormous drive to make it progress… Wonder who is paying for all that. Here are some websites showing Dutch government initiatives;

• https://www.sdgnederland.nl/
• https://duurzaamheid.nl/sdg/sustainable-development-goals-samen-bouwen-aan-een-betere-wereld/
• https://www.planinternational.nl/over-plan/sustainable-development-goals
• https://iplo.nl/thema/bodem/bodembeleid/internationaal/internationale-afspraken/wereldwijde-afspraken/sdgs/
• https://www.kcbr.nl/beleid-en-regelgeving-ontwikkelen/beleidskompas/2-wat-het-beoogde-doel/sustainable-development-goals-sdgs-en-brede-welvaart
• https://www.pbl.nl/sites/default/files/downloads/pbl-2016-sustainable-development-goals-in-nederland_1798_1.pdf

The SDG plans seem benevolent, but the problem i have with it; while the outcome sounds nice, it doesn’t say ‘how’ they want to arrive there.

i’ve seen the Arup/c40 publication regarding going for ‘sustainability’. e.g. it calls a target of 0 Kg meat, and 0 Kg dairy per person per year, an Ambitious target for 2030?! Here you can download their PDF https://www.arup.com/perspectives/publications/research/section/the-future-of-urban-consumption-in-a-1-5c-world

I think it’s an interesting read for realizing how extreme groups are willing to think, and not even being ashamed for it, or being called out on it

True. but the govt is screwing over the people by creating these problems. This is not the only thing consistenly going the wrong way.

To me, it’s like most people in Govt have no clue that the U.N.'s S.D.G.'s are a recipy for trouble.

but… our government

• didn’t/doesn’t address housing shortage.
• didn’t/doesn’t address inflation.
• increases taxation as a means to get more income flow to the government
• spends crazy(milions and bilions) on S.D.G ideals
• makes it impossible for farmers to meet (Co2 etc)regulations
  • and government buys them out…
  • and Schiphol etc buying that land for extra CO2 credit.
• has crazy ‘sustainability’ demains, which makes international production business move elsewhere
• increasing poverty. People requiring food-bank support is increasing, but because of increasingly harsh business environment the food-bank actually obtains less from industrie.
• many small/medium businesses are going bust because they can’t repay the corona-loan. (which many have warned is a slow death trap)

Actually,

• energy grid in NL is becoming unstable because of solar energy :/ (e.g. by houses supplying it onto the network)
• and our cable network is not capable of handling the EV cars recharge requirements.
• and houses to be built not able to get an electric connection, because of electrical infrastructure capacity-problems.

So, don’t bet on solar too soon

because he’s otherwise a decent person. I shudder to think what other content he might expose himself to over time and what that will mean for our relationship.

Maybe he’s wondering what content you’re exposing yourself to, as well? i think it’s time you guys talk, but on one condition; To not be easily offended. i’m wondering; would he feel offend by you, or you feel offended by him?

Thanks for clearing that up💯. it indeed is not Jordan’s character to say something negative about the worth of any person. i can only immagine that he would say something like that when he’s deliberately portraying the perspective of an evil mentality.

i don’t get why you get 19 downvotes though…