Smh I’ve heard about a ton of stupid reddit bans but this one takes the cake. I guess if you keep reporting it they’d have to actually do something about it so they prefer to ban you and pretend it doesn’t exist.

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Who’s a good boy? Now go fetch that remote content and you’ll get a treat!

Ok that makes sense, I just figured you didn’t know how or forgot to do it. But I can understand if you want to reduced lemmy.ml influence, carry on

Why not use the cross-post function? Original post is at [email protected] btw

Nah. Reddit just sucks and Lemmy is awesome

Yeah that’s true, I was also a user since 2012 and it was much better back then. It slowly got worse through the 2010s and then really fell off a cliff after 2020

What movie is that?

Thank you for your service 🫡

I’m the same as the other guy, my rule is that I only post/comment about Lemmy when I use my reddit acount.

I used to only comment a few times per month when I used reddit but as soon as I started using Lemmy I started making hundreds of comments per month. Especially in the first few months, I got to 1k comments super fast. Since then I’ve slowed down a bit but still way more active than I was on reddit. This is my alt account btw.

It’s so much more rewarding to participate on Lemmy for a multitude of reasons, but mostly because it feels like people actually care enough to read my comments and respond. On reddit it often seemed like shouting into the void. Plus, it’s a great feeling to be a part of something that’s community based and not just soulless corporate slop. Every time I check reddit, it feels so miserable and I wonder how I ever tolerated that site for so long.

Nice, I didn’t know fedecan hosted graphs like this. The fediverse.observer graph has a weird scale and Fedidb has also been weird lately, so this is a good alternative.

That’s a bong. Note the curvature on the neck

He’s just some guy, why would anybody take it seriously?

I would love a platform that has collective community moderation through content flagging and voting which does away the need for mods.

This simply isn’t possible. If no one has responsibility, the community will inevitably devolve into chaos. Flagging content doesn’t accomplish anything if there’s no one to actually remove the clearly unacceptable content. If there’s no clear rules and no one to contact about moderation decisions, communities just wouldn’t be able to function at larger scales.

As for the other part of your comment, first of all it’s foolish to use blanket statements and absolutes. However, I wouldn’t disagree that some long term mods do seek power. But you also have to consider burnout, as it’s a thankless job where you get exposed to the worst of the worst, and if people don’t simply quit after a few years, they may become more harsh in their moderation practices as a mechanism to protect themselves.

First of all, 99% of people don’t have the technical expertise to self host Lemmy, and that’s who we are talking about in this thread.

Secondly, there are very significant benefits to using a well established server versus self hosting. The most obvious perk is having a built-in community to interact with and learn from.

But more importantly, more established servers will already be subscribed to many of the major communities, making the task of finding and browsing remote communities that much easier. Consider this:

Your local version of c/science_memes only has ~200 posts and 1.2k comments. Also, many of the older posts didn’t seem to federate the comments or upvotes. This is because your server only recently subscribed to that community, and federation doesn’t occur retroactively.

The sh.itjust.works version of the community has 3.9k posts and 94k comments, because we have been subscribed since the community started.

The main version actually has 3.92k posts and 99.6k comments. Most of the missing comments on the SJW version are likely from lemmygrad and hexbear users, who are defederated by SJW but not by mander.xyz. This is also another major consideration about self hosting vs. joining a larger server: defederations. Some people will see predetermined defederations as a pro while others will consider it a con (also depending on which servers are defederated). The main thing is that people have options that work for them.

Funnily enough, the communick version is majorly fucked up, not sure why that is.

At this point I’m just getting curious, so I checked the lemmy.myserv.one version as well, and it’s got an impressive 3.84k posts and 98.2k comments.

Might as well try it for c/greentext as well.

• Main community - 1.22k posts / 52.6k comments
• is.hardlywork.ing version - 501 posts / 901 comments
• communick.news version - 1.1k posts / 23k comments
• lemmy.myserv.one - 200 posts / 15 comments (I guess I never subscribed to that community on this account? Kinda weird)
• mander.xyz - 1.22k posts / 52.9k comments (not sure how it has more comments than the main version, someone should look into that)

So yeah, it’s not quite as simple as you make it seem. Hopefully someday Lemmy will integrate the ability to federate communities retroactively as some kind of option. Because I think that was more of a design choice than anything, technically it should be possible to toggle a setting and get your instance to download all of the posts and comments from a remote community, even from before you subscribed.

And I feel like without having access to all of the old posts and comments that we have built up over the past couple years, content on Lemmy probably feels a lot more sparse for a new user. Personally, I have always enjoyed sorting by top posts of all time in various communities, both on reddit and now on Lemmy. Even if you’ve been subscribed to the community the whole time, you tend to miss out on some great posts if you only ever sort by new or hot.

@[email protected]

I’m only now seeing that you are the same user, so obviously you can just browse older communities from lemm.ee and be fine. But it’s still useful information to know.

And btw, I luckily have a free lifetime subscription to the communick Lemmy server because they did a promotion back in the day. I do pay them to host my Matrix account though. My original Matrix account got killed when the admin randomly decided to shut down his server, so I figured I’d go with a paid option.

I won’t divulge the price since they no longer offer individual packages, but it’s quite reasonable. If you compare their current pricing to what people spend on streaming services like Netflix, I think it’s more than fair. $29 yearly for Mastodon, Lemmy, Matrix and Funkwhale access? I’d buy that as a gift for someone in a heartbeat if it would get them to start using the fediverse.

Maybe. But Lemmy isn’t close to that volume of users yet

Communick is a nice option. I have an account there too. Unfortunately many Lemmings are weirdly hostile to it being a paid service, so it hasn’t gotten much traction.

I think having more small business type Lemmy servers would be a decent solution to the onboarding difficulties people are discussing in this thread. There’s definitely a chunk of users who just need the security of having someone to contact if they are confused about something or something isn’t working. And if they’re paying for it then the provider has an incentive to give them customer support.

I like how the GenX and millennial is the only example that isn’t overwhelmed at first. I think it’s definitely worth considering that those particular generations have a significantly greater ability and openness to learning new paradigms and adapting to new UXs, because that was something that was unavoidable for all of our formative years.

Due to the rapid pace of technological advancement from 1980-2010, it was simply necessary to adapt to brand new systems and interfaces every few years. And the rewards for doing so were enormous, so we naturally learned that if you took the time to figure out these new technologies and interfaces, you would be rewarded with much greater capabilities. For previous and subsequent generations, that process probably didn’t shape their way of interacting with technology as much, so they’re reluctant to put in a significant amount of effort in learning to use new technology.

https://lemmy.world/

Copy past that into your browser, then log in with your username and password?

I’m not very tech savvy compared to a lot of Lemmings but I’m definitely above average. So I’m not trying to throw shade, just trying to help. The more people who get the hang of things is the more people who can teach others how to do it.

This is a good point. And also reddit is astroturfing hardcore, it’s likely that many comments are coming from botted accounts and especially upvotes are heavily manipulated.

I’m not disagreeing with the fact that a lot of people genuinely struggle to get started on Lemmy. But just pointing out that perception is actively amplified on reddit, because they obviously want to discourage people from joining Lemmy.

It’s not a conspiracy at all, I’ve seen countless positive comments and posts about Lemmy removed over the past year or so. They know about us and they are worried.

Agreed. Also if we’re being honest servers would probably start crashing left right and center if ten million redditors decided to join next week. The software still needs time to mature, so slow and steady growth is actually perfect for right now.

You can find the defederation info quite easily just by asking, or going to the blocked instance tab on whatever server you’re wondering about.

Your other questions are somewhat ambiguous, so there’s no easy way to simplify it into a data sheet. Because of the fact that the vast majority of instances are federated with each other, it also doesn’t matter that much.

I don’t think that kind of numerical information would really make the decision any easier, it’d be more likely to confuse people even further.

Servers are either general purpose or with a specific focus. Ani.social, ttrpg.network, slrpnk.net, are servers that clearly advertise the specific content they host and focus on. And obviously the geographical/language based servers (feddit.uk, aussie.zone, lemmy.nz) do the same thing. That’s pretty easy to figure out imho.

The distribution of joined communities just seems way more complicated than necessary. Number of users is already the most widely available stat, just go to fedidb or lemmyverse and you can easily see the list of instances ordered by monthly active users.

https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active_month

I do think a cheat sheet about defederations would be nice to have though, I might try to make one when I have a chance.