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  • TheFonz@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldOh Joe...
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    45 minutes ago

    I want lefties to be politically effective, but right now all we care about is empty rhetoric. You’re the prime example of that. Instead of being concerned with engaging and constructing good arguments, you spent half the time criticizing my motivations. Because that’s all we are amounting right now is living up to the meme of ‘hot’ air and no substance. So we come with asinine statements like:

    Biden should just pause Israel because Obama was able to reverse Cuba

    and the moment someone points how stupid this is you went straight to

    WHY YOU LOVE GENOCIDE!!!

    We gotta do better (and i don’t care if this sounds like tone policing). I’m sick of the fake moral indignation. I want people to start thinking about being politically effective and actually changing the discourse towards what can be accomplished.


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    2 hours ago

    I’m a progressive leftie and care about genocide too but it’s not a magic shield that suddenly grants all my arguments immunity from criticism and also imposes on me the justification to insult everyone that disagrees with me personally. That’s just called being a dick.


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    3 hours ago

    Is it possible to have a conversation without morally loading every statement or are you here for the virtue signalling? I don’t think I’ve attacked you personally in any of my posts, have I?

    sure as hell isn’t PANDERING! What the fuck is wrong with you??

    Typical apologist tactic

    PRETENDING to care about the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians

    deflecting to your conspiracy theory

    shows that YOU don’t care enough about Palestinian lives

    I think it’s time to close Lemmy for the day. Cheers.



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    4 hours ago

    Just to circle back, because you keep side-stepping it: Cuba is not equivalent to Israel. In any form or manner. That’s what started this conversation.

    If you followed any of the left pundits, news outlets, and even social media (including Lemmy) before Oct 7 you would know that Joe was long dead in the water to this demographic. You can latch on to Israel/Palestine as a defining moment for this election but honestly if it wasn’t for this, this group would have found something else to latch on to. Joe may very well lose this election, but it won’t be because of the progressive left by any shot as demonstrated by who is actually showing up tot he polls (even if pivot states such as Mi with large muslim populations exist).


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    5 hours ago

    You’re not addressing the central point of my claim and simply restating your initial statement: that the president can change policy

    has the power to change bad policy

    while ignoring the key difference between Cuba and Israel. They are completely dissimilar situations with vastly different implications. The progressive left --which cares so much about genocide suddenly (forget Yemen, Syria, where more people have died int he last 6 years by an order of 10 than the entire palestine-israel conflict in the last 100 years)-- made up their mind about Biden long before Oct 7. The only way for Joe to pander to their vote is by accomplishing miracles at this point and I think that ship has sailed a long time ago so I really doubt they are the key demographic that will cost him his election.