Uh, sir, this is ChapoChat, what else do we have to do but discuss how great Fallout New Vegas is and debate China?

I openly admitted my evidence was anecdotal and anecdotal evidence is what I provided. Also my claim was in response to another claim that “it was totally harmless” and that guy didn’t back it up with any evidence so why do you go hound him for some.

And this all circles back to my main question, why do so many on the left seem hell bent to defending the valor of astrology? I didn’t advocate outlawing it or being mean to people who were into it, fuck I said it was harmless 90% of the time. I just said I didn’t think it was 100% harmless and that was enough to get some debate bros jumping down my goddamn throat.

I really don’t know if any organizations that gathers hard statistics on things like “how many astrology nerds are weirdos who take it too far and are obnoxious about it.”

We’re putting anecdote against anecdote here. The “it’s totally harmless” camp doesn’t really have any hard data to back up their assertions, it’s all just anecdote for them to. I don’t know why the counter claim needs a doctoral thesis to back it up.

Hun?

I mean yeah my evidence is all anecdotal but I promise you I ain’t lying. Maybe I’m just in an area with a bizarrely high amount of people who take astrology ridiculously too far, but if you go on astrology YouTube and Twitter you’ll probably find some figures to back up what I’m saying. They probably won’t be the most popular ones but they’re out there.

I’m gonna disagree with the “it’s totally harmless” line. It is for like 90% of people into it, but I’ve also seen the other 10%. It can be a gateway into other pseudoscientific thinking, I’ve seen a lot of astrology people get into anti-vax shit. And on a more interpersonal level some start taking it so seriously it starts affecting their relationships, like they can mediate any conflict with a family member or friend without a discussion of their astrological sign to the point their loved ones get fed up talking to them about it. I’ve seen breakups happen over this.

And beyond that, as I mentioned above, I think it’s obnoxious and rude to demand everyone you know have a discourse with you about something they believe in but other dont. We wouldn’t hesitate to call this out if it were Christians injecting Jesus into every convo or STEM bros demanding to know everyone’s Briggs-Myers or IQ, but for whatever reason people demanding they know your sign before they talk to you gets a pass.

I find this impulse to redeem astrology in the left fucking weird. If we don’t want to be associated with Reddit STEM bros who hate it we should just be silent on the issue. But just because something is popular with LGBT people doesn’t mean it’s not a load of nonsense that’s obnoxious to bring up in literally every damn conversation fucking ever, like seriously why does EVERY GODDAMN convo with a new person I meet have to open with what my birthday is so they can chart out my fucking personality for me!

Sorry, I live near an art school.

I would agree a straight dude who feels the bizarre need to LOUDLY DECLARE his lack of attraction to trans women is probably just expressing transphobia.

If it just genuinely the case a straight dude has never felt attraction to a trans woman and doubts they ever would, I mean whatever you can’t control who you’re attracted to. I’d say just yah know, keep that to yourself and if a trans woman ever does express attraction to you just politely say “thanks but no thanks”.

Too cold

They would need a bigger island

Hey you know my favorite piece of music, it’s the one where pleasant sounds are made in sequence with a rhythm and lyric poetry is sung over it.

I think it’s about human emotion.

Have you ever heard of that music thing?

Italy… aren’t real places

Chapos rejoice!

I’m American and I say: Every single American has been brainwashed from birth by the most effective propaganda machine in the history of humanity. Every single American carries brainworms designed to defend global capital and perpetuate a genocidal empire, and reflexively repeat them whenever challenged. Every single American has internalized these defenses to such a degree that they think they’re their own thoughts. Yes, even the so-called “American left”. Yes, even Bernie. Yes, even AOC. Yes, even your favorite Youtuber.

If you’re American, just shut the fuck up. The only way America can help the world is by dissolving itself, period.

Haha now you have to reject your own argument!

I think it’s extra weird that these kids spend the better part of a lifetime in this magic kingdom, never once even having a passing thought of their family or friends back in war torn England, and grow to be in their mid 30s before accidentally stumbling upon the portal back to their home world and then reverting to children. Like, wouldn’t that fuck you in the head? Living for twenty years on another planet with a totally different society and then having to return to being a Pre-teen in 40s England?

Anime consumption is pretty ubiquitous at this point. It’s really become in the same vein as video games, a formally niche hobby who’s hardcore fans were viewed as bizarre, but is now popular enough that almost everyone under 30 has moderate exposure to it. It’s not really even a white guy thing anymore, a lot of people seem totally unaware how popular anime is among African Americans, and while not 50/50 female anime fans aren’t exactly rare.

As such I think taking about “unique” effect anime has over other media is, well about as stupid as doing the same for video games. Video games tend to be more violent and anime more openly horny than most media, but yeah I don’t really think you can isolate any affects they have over any other media.