For real guys, we need a better way to debate, propose and vote on de-federation.

They only reason I started using hotels again is because my fiance gets good deals and they usually upgrade us because she works in the industry 🙂

My problem is that people talk as if these are the only options.

There are other services, like VRBO, that do the same thing and usually have the same properties. AirBNB is garbage now, so just use an alternative that doesn’t have the same bad policies and high fees.

I have supported Discord with a nitro subscription for as long as I’ve had an account. It’s a terrific program and there’s no reason to expect premium features for nothing in return. The mentality that everything should be free is why we have so many fucking ad driven online business models and I’m over it. I pay for what I use if it’s a good service.

Just look at the ratio on this post for a gold confirmation of those numbers. 300+ comments and 1400+ upvotes. That a decent interaction ratio.

Even just upvoting is still participation as well. Wiki is different.

Wikipedia is a different concept though.

This is social media. Wiki is information. I come here to share thoughts, but I only go to wiki to find data.

Almost everyone on social media posts random bullshit. That’s why there are tons and tons of comments on every post.

Things like reddit and Lemmy probably have at least 50% participation from their daily active users.

Yeah I’m having a hard time understanding this entire thread. Like… Is everyone here completely baked?

We touch our belts and then we wash our hands. Just like we touch our dicks AND THEN WE WASH OUR HANDS.

y’all are acting like I should be washing my dick too.

No, there’s no indication that Meta cares about the Fediverse.

This is all just a bunch of hype. Yes, of course we’ll defederate if they try. I think that’s fairly obvious.

Uh, we need participation from everyone in order for the fediverse to have legitimacy. We unfortunately need those cringe users if we want large scale adoption. Without it everything stays small scale, developers aren’t attracted to the concept and people leave for functioning alternatives.

There’s a 90% probability that Threads takes over from the failing Twitter. Nothing will change. No one will learn anything. More of everyone’s data will be stollen.

It’s easy to missjudge how much of our society are just mindless drones.

Thanks for blocking that instance.

I tried to explain to their admin why the entire concept was bad for the fediverse but they didn’t seem to understand.

People can do whatever they want with their instances, but something like that should defederate themselves and live in a void.

That isn’t the way to try and build content or community over here. We have the high ground. We don’t need to stoop down to their level.

Yeah this is a good point.

It took me months to actually start using Lemmy and Mastodon. I would consider myself a tech savvy person and it still took a while getting used too. I think there need to be better tutorials linked on the sign-up pages that help people understand the basic concepts. That would help drive true user acquisition.

The beauty of the fediverse is that the last panel can’t happen.

We control our own instances. There’s no world where admins wouldn’t defederate from any Facebook attempt to barge in.

Maybe a few larger instances sell out, but users hold the power here now. If an admin betrays our trust, we’ll just make a new instance.

It depends on the tech. I’m not convinced this form of federation is going to work. There’s already a lot of tech issues being exposed and drama unfolding between the instances.

I also don’t think it will see wide public adoption due to how segmented the communities are.

I hope these issues are resolved, and I’ll try to stick it out here. I quit Twitter and am trying Mastodon and I’ll do the same with reddit. I’m not willing to just sit by and watch corporations take over our society.

And some massive lawsuits to handle.