I think war is unavoidable at this point. Just hope the Chinese response completely humiliates the white settler trash war mongers so thoroughly they finally realize their time is up.

I agree with some of what you said but mainly disagree with your analysis of poor libertarians. I will use the USA as a model for my post.

Historically we should expect to find more economic fluidity amongst white people, meaning they’d be able to move from worker to labour aristocracy/petty bourgeoisie. The classic example would be for a white worker to labour for a time at a decent paying job, save money, buy a house, and start a business.

So as we see, the class lines would be more blurred in the past because of the stronger wages and free time of labourers, and so there becomes no real need in the present to tie poorer libertarians historically to immaterial things since their interests in the past were absolutely material and aligned.

With the polarization of the economy the class lines become more defined. So then the poor libertarians, stuck without any mobility as workers, become very reactionary and oppose any groups that threaten their elevated or once elevated position. Those who are petit bourgeoisie themselves, even though they may not be poor, are threatened with becoming workers again.

This plays out nowadays as the libertarian to fascist pipeline, though American libertarianism is already inherently reactionary by being supported by colonialism and imperialism (as opposed to, for instance, a petit bourgeoisie in another country trying to rid itself of the shackles of colonialism).

In the American case libertarianism is a petit bourgeois (and white i.e. settler, very key here) ideology that fits very well with the standard Marxist model of the petit bourgeois being the source of fascism.

Hope they were allergic

Whilst saying this cannot bring back everyone that has died, like a whiny athlete that doesn’t play fair, the empire lashes out the most when it knows it is going to lose.

Economically they are rent seeking. You pay a subscription to them for further access to their brand. They also fill the market niche created by alienation, serving a social and economic function here. They qualify as petit bourgeoisie I think.

It’s fairly obvious you arent well read on socialism. The way you think about history, development of society and its transformations are clearly incorrect given the other stuff you’ve posted (for example, you don’t understand how propaganda works). So we don’t need to explore very much further.

You are not taught how to grapple with those topics properly in America and in fact are taught an older, outdated manner that is instilled into you since birth by everyday interaction with parents, friends, education, media, the list goes on. This is the true nature of propaganda.

What you should be concerned with is the scientific interpretation of history, since growing up in America, you do not learn this but rather the ideological one that, even when you say you criticize the US, often simply ends up supporting the US, who has been the biggest barrier in modern times to historical progress.

Have a good day and don’t take it personally. I’d wager 90%+ of us here started out like you.

😂 so smug yet so incorrect

Great article to read after I just downed a glass of milk

If you love your family and they are good to you then I suggest not broaching this stuff with them very hard. Reality of the world vs the reality of being a social animal. Your relationships are still the most important thing even though we live in capitalism.

Work slowly on moving them over time. Make sure you’re not actually damaging your relationship to win an argument. You said you’ve only been doing this less than a year and that’s a crazy short amount of time to be engaging so actively with this stuff with your family.

I recommend starting with distrust and more neutrality (ex just say Russia is another country on the other side of the world defending itself, why are you scared? Or why is the US surrounding China if the US is defending itself?)

As for sources to back up this line of questioning, many people are distrustful of “breadtube” sources like secondthought because it’s a young white guy on YouTube so if they need a white guy with a PhD talking to them, I always recommend Jeffrey Sachs for things about China and Russia, Ukraine war etc. Guy was an advisor for Russian shock therapy in the 90s, PhD etc, so there is no possible way any liberal can dismiss his opinions if they’re engaging in good faith.

And don’t press all the time. You don’t want to make communists appear annoying. If you look at it from your family’s point of view, You’ve changed so radically and are always arguing for something so bizarre, of course they’d liken you to joining a cult!

You want to appear like what most people in the world want to do: just someone who wants enough money to put food on the table and relax at the end of the day. Couple that with being well informed and it’s a winning combination.

I don’t know if there is any important or necessary conservation of gorillas done by this zoo in particular, but it is as barbaric to have these animals in captivity for amusement as it is barbaric to kidnap people from far away lands and use them as entertainment.

And even if their goal is conservation, there is still a contradiction in having to display the gorillas for human entertainment to make money to support them.

Harambe is a victim of capitalism no matter which way you slice it.

Maybe have a look at Jeffrey Sachs interviews on Ukraine. Certainly, as far as I know, not a “leftist”, being the guy known for shock therapy economic doctrine, but that also means he’s had an intimate history with that area of the world and he presents the history of this conflict quite plainly for Americans to digest.

Personally speaking, and I have experience with this sort of thing, often times you just have to lay low as a Marxist. My job does not allow me to express my actual opinions and I am surrounded by non Marxist, politically active people.

There are things in the world that constantly bombard us at every second and it feels like you are under siege. It’s a valid feeling, but ultimately we have to learn that we cannot expand our emotional energy on everything that goes on - it’s just not possible. It might seem crass, and I’m really not trying to be, but you have to detach and observe the world and events in the third person, as if you were a scientist. Do that whilst staying in touch with your feelings of indignation.

This may well be something you’re willing to invest in and so that’s up to you. But for future conflicts you find yourself potentially a part of, you’ll need to consider if you want to shoulder it. You have to learn to observe things dispassionately, but it gets easier the more you do it, and you will find optimism in the scientific unfolding/direction of history.

They’re going to lose lol. They’re so stupid it’s crazy.

Hate it. Pretty sure its why I dont like to be touched, or be physically close, hugs, etc., among other things I struggle with, like mental health.

yeah it seemed pretty pointless as i went through deleting stuff (anything containing key words related to geopolitics, like capitalism, etc. at least - i never talked too much about that stuff on reddit so others may find doing even this to be time consuming). rather, i edited them and replaced them with 1s and then deleted them. but it gave me more peace of mind and at the least perhaps made it a bit tougher for background check companies if their data gathering and capabilities advance to being able to piece stuff like that together.

Just went ahead and deleted my profile after searching for key words and deleting specific posts. Decided not to use an extension since it looked a bit dodgy. All manual and it took an hour, but I’m finally reddit free. Thanks for the encouragement.

Did you use anything to delete the messages on your account before actually deleting the account itself?

Been wanting to quit for a while.

160…China is achieving so much.

You can’t have an internet full of Chinese people posting videos showing off their new technology and lifestyle if you’re America.

Imagine 5 years, or 10 years how far China will advance. The fascist propaganda and internet censorship will ramp up even more in America as the ruling class fights to prevent the truth of the disparity from catching on.

Defeat liberalism with more liberalism

Love Hudson. Can’t wait to dig into this with Ben Norton as the interviewer!!

Yeah! The interplay of technology and history is specifically key here. Back in Roman times, they did not have means of instant communication and access to information. Because that is available today, word of events like the Palestine genocide spreads faster, groups of people shift their attitudes faster, and benefits of trade with countries like China are realized more quickly at a material level which also changes groups of people.

It could absolutely take literal ages - Rome split itself in two and persisted as the Byzantine empire until the 1400s. But with the technological factor here, I think it will indeed be a quicker descent at least to a point where America can no longer assert itself as an imperial force. And when I say technological factor, I don’t mean just communication and information, but also including that socialist countries have historically advanced far more rapidly in terms of scientific/tech progress than capitalist ones (USSR, China), and socialist technology is certainly advancing at a far more rapid pace than technology did at the end of antiquity into medieval times.