This is one obstacle to left organizing in the States I think gets ignored. Americans have no sense of community, because Americans hate each other. Including the leftist ones. You see it here, we call Amerikkkans Burgerbrained hogs, but now you want me to organize these hogs? I fucking hate them, and they hate me. My ultimate goal is to fuck off to a cabin in the woods away from these pathetic creeps, and you want me to put my life on the line trying to give them help they largely don’t want?

The list is just the entire US population, including myself. Please send me to the mines, I don’t want to write poetry!

There’s really no orgs with the resources to do anything in the US. In most cities the left can barely pull off a crappy soup kitchen.

I mean yeah we should try and do something, but I’m not going to lie to people about their prospects. And honestly it may be better for peoples mental health to accept defeat than struggle on in futility, at least then you can

No offense DirtyOwl but you’re an Aussie. Idk what it’s like in Australia, but on the ground here things are pretty dismal. All the Libs are scratched, the DNC already seems to be formulating a right wing shift, there’s no leftist infrastructure to take advantage of.

I’ve lived through like 4 moments in history that should have been a wake up call to Libs, they never work. There no working class party in the US because there no demand for one, even in marginalized communities. And it’s not just propaganda, it’s the will of the people, American hogs love being atomized, narcissistic, individualistic consumers and will lash out at anything that threatens that.

I’m still kinda in the “nothing ever happens” camp. I think Libs are gonna get egg on their face when Trump mostly just governs like a regular ass Republican. Things get worse but there’s not 1984 style dystopia.

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There’s a Greek place near me that technically has dine in but everyone just gets take out.

I’m probably gonna get that tomorrow night now.

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What sort of leftism?

Nobody ever learns anything

They’re default libs because it’s in their material interest. That’s not going to change, at least not for a little bit.

Most of those people are still Libs, they’re just lazy Libs

Yes, I, a solid blue state resident, did this.

not fully invested liberals.

Outside of CHUDs, fully invested liberals are well over half the population

We live in the digital age, everyone is online. IDK where everyone gets this idea that online libs dissipate into ether when they log off.

Yes

I wish I had the faith you did, but all I’m seeing right now is everyone blaming the left for this. Libs are pissed and openly wishing for Palestinians to get bombed and immigrants deported. I don’t see any path for socialists to take here besides just cracking open a beer and hoping China invades soon. I may need to grab a six pack. Nah fuck that a case.

It sounds like you haven’t talked to a liberal in the last 12 hours.

I have

They’re fucking ripe

Really? I’ve just been seeing them dig their heels in and get even more reactionary. I have about as much faith in the American people as I do a in a dried up dog turd.