• Voidance [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    They’re strategy is to make life ‘annoying’ enough that rich people will react to everyone begging them to stop destroying the planet. I doubt they’re actually feds, I think they’re just run and funded by bougie morons

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      At least this is more effective than standing in front of a building holding up a sign.

      Escalation is good. Hopefully this encourages some people to be a little more bold, take a little more risk…

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        I think that’s the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed. I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they’re doing, but honestly it’s more direct action than I’ve ever done for the climate

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          I think that’s the point, they are trying to make life increasingly annoying for everyone, especially westerners, until climate change is adequately addressed.

          I don’t think it works like that tho. Like do they honestly expect the average person is going to be “yeah these activists sure are inconveniencing me with blocking traffic and throwing paint and stuff, let us change our entire political and economic order so they shut up about it already”? I mean I’d very much like to be wrong here if that’s what it really takes I’m gonna be personally throwing paint at all kinds of shit but I just don’t see it.

          I can backseat activist all day and nitpick what they’re doing, but honestly it’s more direct action than I’ve ever done for the climate

          I can somewhat agree with that, I don’t think what they’re doing is inherently wrong or harmful or whatever, I just don’t think it’s really having any impact.

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        Is it better for people ignoring environmental issues to be comfortable or mildly annoyed, assuming they aren’t taking action either way?

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          The problem is working class activists are taking the hit for the wealthy people funding these organisations. And they are taking risks and devoting their time to a strategy which we know will not work, and which doesn’t just disdain popular support but is specifically antagonistic to it. I don’t doubt the activists hearts are in the right place, but I also don’t think they will achieve anything positive. It’s not an ethics thing, it’s a question of what’s actually practical.

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      They’re strategy is to make life ‘annoying’ enough that rich people will react

      Stopping highways and stuff makes life annoying for not rich people, and they predictably react by saying “fuck the climate and fuck these kids” or something like that

    • people talk about these kinds of actions like its proof that these are “psyops” but i think the more obvious explanation is that these activists feel that they’re fighting a crisis of the system, rather than the system itself, so they’ll violate certain legal strictures, but not the moral ones that they’ve been deeply inculcated with since birth. “people over property” is their program, but of course we can’t do away with property altogether.

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    At least they targeted something that actually contributes to climate change for once.

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    Just Stop Oil released a press statement on their website.

    One of the protestors said:
    “We’re living in two worlds: one where billionaires live in luxury, able to fly in private jets away from the other, where unlivable conditions are being imposed on countless millions. Meanwhile, this system that is allowing extreme wealth to be accrued by a few, to the detriment of everyone else, is destroying the conditions necessary to support human life in a rapidly accelerating never-ending ‘cruel summer’. Billionaires are not untouchable, climate breakdown will affect every single one of us.”

    The other protestor said:
    “Over the years, I’ve had to realise that even working in sustainability provides me with essentially no ability to make the necessary changes to prevent the complete collapse of our natural systems. I have to take desperate measures to make my voice heard. In 2024 we all have to be considering what we can do each day to change the course our society is on. We need an emergency treaty to stop the extraction and burning of oil, gas and coal by 2030.”

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    Well I guess it makes more sense than throwing flour on a Bronze Age world heritage site.

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      Technically it predates the British bronze age, it’s one of the few well-preserved neolithic sites. Though any permanent damage done by yesterday’s stunt is 100% the fault of the fossil fuel capitalists for sabotaging the last fifty years of environmental policy, I don’t blame the kids at all

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        Yes, but then we’d have to explain it was started in the Neolithic, but the last stage was early Bronze Age and might have been built by the people whose DNA replaced 85ish percent of the native Britains, and it’s not even a proper henge and it’s still not as good as Avebury etc etc :)

        I haven’t read the article, but does it mention how many people there were, how far they travelled and by what method. Was the cornflour locally sourced?

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          but the last stage was early Bronze Age and might have been built by the people whose DNA replaced 85ish percent of the native Britains

          Damn, I hate moving into a new house and finding out that they’ve left a bunch of half finished projects that are now my job to fix.