• star_wraith [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 years ago

    I don’t get why on this site and especially on the old sub, AOC gets like 10X the shit we give Bernie - who almost never gets criticized other than for bowing out when he did and endorsing Biden - when both their stated policies are functionally the same thing.

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      4 years ago

      Probably because she’s a lot younger and still has plenty of time for her politics to get much worse.

      But yeah, Bernie deserves more criticism for many of the same reasons. Both are Dem entryists presenting themselves as “democratic socialists” when the limits of their imaginations are somewhere in the neighborhood of FDR New Deal liberalism and the right wing of social democracy. Bernie deserves even more shit than AOC does for promoting a sort of US-American social imperialism, consistently supporting the growth of the military-industrial complex.

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    4 years ago

    Me: If this electoral strategy is going to have any value, it’s going to require challenging the American perception of socialist states.

    Libs: No! Americans have to have direct material improvement first. Then they’ll be more open-minded about socialist states. So let socdems say they want to be like the UK or Norway.

    Me: So are people in the UK or Norway particularly open-minded about socialist states?

    Libs: 🤨

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      4 years ago

      Yeah and that all starts by telling a former CIA spook Vanderbilt descendant in an interview on a corporate news channel that the Soviet Union was good, actually.

      It’d be better if she never sat down with clowns like this, but I genuinely don’t know what you think the strategy should be when talking to a dumb dumb mainstream virulently anti-communist organization like CNN.

      Edit: lmao downbears don’t mean I’m wrong, clowns.