Great.
Biden, now say you’ll do the opposite. That you’ll work with abortion rights groups to make a right to an abortion the law of the land. Give us something we can use to clearly distinguish you from whatever polices Trump is going to be promoting.
It is not hard to find tons of unequivocal statements of support, approval from major organizations like planned parenthood themselves of his policies and budgets, and many different executive department orders and initiatives begining early in his term. I agree with you he and democrats should continue to hammer that though, I’m just confused by comments acting like Biden hasn’t expressed his support for abortion rights many times already, in both actions and words. He immediately took actions to help Planned Parenthood back in 2021 as some of the first things he did in office. Guess the dems just need better messengers if people are really missing all of this. But did any of you even watch the state of the union? He hammered on this pretty hard.
https://time.com/6173002/joe-biden-abortion-fundamental-right/
“I believe that a woman’s right to choose is fundamental, Roe has been the law of the land for almost fifty years, and basic fairness and the stability of our law demand that it not be overturned,” Biden said
https://time.com/6898688/biden-ivf-abortion-state-of-the-union/
“Her own life and ability to have children in the future were at risk,” Biden said. “It’s happening to too many others.” He warned that many Republicans in the room were promising voters that they would pass a national abortion ban. “My God what freedom else will you take away?” Biden said
“We’ll continue to fight to protect access to reproductive health care and we urge Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law,” Biden continued.
Summary of more recent executive department actions: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/07/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-continues-the-fight-for-reproductive-freedom/
While more funding is urgently needed to fully support sexual and reproductive health care across the country and around the world, this budget is a strong indicator of the administration’s priorities
Planned Parenthood Welcomes Biden Commitment to Sexual and Reproductive Health
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-16/biden-planned-parenthood
Column: A Trump-era attack on Planned Parenthood and women’s health comes to an end
Cool.
He should say that pursuing a law to codify a woman’s right to an abortion is a major plank of his 2024 platform. I’ll vote for him if he does that; hell, I’ll go get ten people who aren’t registered, and make sure they vote as well.
He can win on this issue alone, but he has to do more than luke-warm ideations and milquetoast ‘support’, as if it needs to be someone else taking up the banner to do so. I don’t need him to express passive support for issues like abortion rights, which is all those citations offer.
I need to hear him say he’s going to own the issue and fight to make it a reality. Passive support simply isn’t good enough.
Did you look at any of the links? That’s exactly what he said, multiple times in the past, and continues to do so, like in the state of the union… I linked tons of things his administration has done over multiple years, endorsements of his policies and budgets from abortion right groups for multiple years. I don’t know what else I can tell you, I don’t know how he could be any more clear in his statements.
“If Americans send me a Congress that supports the right to choose, I promise you: I will restore Roe v. Wade as the law of the land again,” the president said, with Supreme Court justices in attendance for this address to Congress.
So I guess grab ten friends who aren’t registered and get to voting.
“If Americans send me a Congress that supports the right to choose, I promise you: I will restore Roe v. Wade as the law of the land again,” the president said, with Supreme Court justices in attendance for this address to Congress.
That isn’t the same thing as what I said. Biden is taking a passive position of support. In the same way that the administration might write a budget, Biden’s office can propose legislation they would like taken up. He could work with house members to do so tomorrow. He can make this a priority of the administration.
The key difference I’m seeing that you dont is that passive support isn’t equivalent to actively fighting for something. I’m making a commitment that if Biden takes this on as a “active fight”, in contrast to something they “passively support”, I will to.
As far as I know, working with the house to get a bill to encodify a right to an abortion is not a campaign promise Biden has made. He’s offered passive support that if someone else does the work, he would support it. These two things are not equivalent.
The house did pass a bill codifying Roe v Wade with Biden’s support during his first two years when dems still controlled the house. Biden tried to get the senate to overturn the filibuster to get the bill through. The first president to support overturning the filibuster for something in over 100 years to the best of my knowledge (I think Wilson was the last one to make an attack on the filibuster, but that was just to get it to our present day rules from an even worse version). And I already linked many active ways his administration has supported abortion rights and reproductive rights more generally throughout the first term. Sorry but I don’t think there’s any point in continuing the discussion any longer, because I think your mind is made up and no matter what I point out the goal posts will be shifted again.
Ok, point made. I owe you ten. I’d still like to see Biden “actively supporting”/ “actively promoting” the a woman right to choose in his 2024 campaign language, but if he’s working to push both the American people and congress to do so, that is specifically what I asked for.
Thank you, and to be clear I totally agree with you, this needs to be shouted from the rooftops as a central part of his and many other democrats campaign
I honestly wonder if we’ll see a dem with those kind of balls in my lifetime.
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Okay. So he knows he won’t win.
So he’s planning on corralling all the zealots before the election?
Man. I have an oddly good feeling about all of this. Here’s hoping I don’t eat those words…
The problem becomes if he doesn’t win Jan 6th is going to look like a peaceful protest. He’s priming the pumps for a full-blown hostile takeover of the government. The scary part is, it may actually work. I’m very much NOT looking forward to this election…
Surely the military after years of indoctrination should be loyal to the government?
I’m not particularly hopeful about that
I am.
They serve and protect the constitution. Not trump, not Biden.
If Trump couldn’t hold onto power while he had it, he’s going to have a much harder time seizing it when it doesn’t earn it.
I mean, they will, but the military isnt supposed to be deployed on native soil. That’s what the national guard, etc. are for.
Um, so something almost no one in the country actually wants.
