• gregorum@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    My religion says gambling is a sin.

    Irrelevant to the discussion and a straw man

    Insurance of any sort is a gambling as Ned from The Simpsons proves in his quote from the 8th episode of the 8th season of The Simpsons.

    Fictional characters in a cartoon are not a source of reliable, verifiable facts, especially regarding healthcare and/or economic advice. And, wow, if you’re telling me that you base your financial and healthcare decisions (not to mention your religious convictions) based on a line from The Simpsons, then don’t simultaneously claim that you’re making a rational argument based on logic and facts. “Ned from The Simpsons said it” is a claim so ridiculous it really proves how desperate you are to hold onto your “beliefs” in the face of facts, evidence, and actual logic.

    Now, you’re free to disagree but you haven’t been able to disprove either of those facts that together form an air-tight case for what I’m saying.

    It’s your responsibility to prove your claims, not for me to disprove them, and you haven’t done that at all. Oh, and some throwaway joke from a fictional cartoon - on its own - isn’t proof of anything other than that your “beliefs” have a fictional (and very silly) basis.

    Nice self-own.

      • gregorum@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Because we are discussing health insurance and the definition of gambling. You keep trying to change the subject to various other subjects, such as:

        • “being an American male”
        • unemployment insurance
        • your wages
        • crossing the street
        • my usage of quotation marks

        and including religion, which is a straw man

        straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man”.

        That amnesia is really hitting you hard!

        • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          In the last 140 comments we’ve wandered through many topics, including what colour socks you are wearing.

          It’s no longer a straw man.

          • gregorum@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            No, you keep trying to change the subject, and I keep calling it out while staying on the subject of health insurance and the meaning of the word “gambling.” Again, blaming me for your words and actions.

            You’re free to your “beliefs”, but the facts and evidence contradict you.

              • gregorum@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                4 months ago

                You were using straw man because you had no rational response to a discussion about health insurance.

                straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man”.

                • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  So would you consider walking on the side of a road gambling?

                  This is the comment you characterized as ‘crossing the street.’

                  Can we trust anything else you say if you confuse simple comments like this?

                  • gregorum@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    4 months ago

                    I don’t care if you trust me. I never have. Others will trust the evidence and facts that they have seen so far.

                    But I will continue to point out when you post misinformation because it’s the right thing to do.