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    7 months ago

    Why the fuck would you need to track pregnant people? Only to find and punish them when they go through an abortion huh?

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                I’m sure they do, in an academic sense.

                But it doesn’t fit the mental structure they’ve built to justify anti-trans bigotry, which is assembled on an scaffold of nominally trying to protect women from perverts.

                Current right wing anti-trans sentiment is built on much of the same underlying ideas as the anti-trans part of 2nd wave trans-exclusive radical feminism:

                • All men are dangerous, likely sexual predators.
                • Sexual predators will do whatever they have to to pursue their prey.
                • You cannot change your sex, and wanting to is either mental illness or a ploy.
                • Women have a right to spaces that exclude men.
                • Women in such spaces are likely to be in a more vulnerable position than elsewhere.

                Therefore, sexually predatory men will play dress up and pretend to be women to get access to women’s spaces as a means to pursue prey.

                If you accept all five of those points, then their view makes total sense (but at least half of those points are wrong, which is why it doesn’t make sense in reality).

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          They worship money so they think life should be terrible for everyone (even themselves) except the owner class. Its the same reason Christians, family values types, and fiscal types still support people like Trump and other kid diddlin’ Republicans - You’re inherently “good” if you have the money to get out of it, so clearly it can’t be a sin.

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        7 months ago

        And considering abortion isn’t illegal in every state, this is even more of an overreach than if it were.

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      Same deal with gun owning political opposition really. I’m against any tools the rich can use to target and disenfranchise their political opponents with.

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        7 months ago

        tell me you’re a racist without telling me you’re a racist

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          I’m assuming this is internalized thought process of a racist and forgot the /s.

          Seen this pattern before when arguing with racists before that it will increase pop of poor demographic and "guess who’s poor ahole! " Then you get this mental gymnastics response. Which heavily concerning on sooo many levels.

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      I thought voting Dem in state/federal and voting with the heart for local was supposed to fix everything though.

      Can someone who is good with politics explain to me why Dems are not fighting back against the slide into fascism?

      Why are these states still receiving federal funding and welfare subsidies?

      Why is the compromised and illegitimate Supreme Court still in power?

      Why are blue states not sanctioning fascist states? (Yes I know feds prohibit commerce tariffs. Why are blue states just giving up instead of getting creative? Isn’t legislation their job?)

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        Can someone who is good with politics explain to me why Dems are not fighting back against the slide into fascism?

        They are.

        Why are these states still receiving federal funding and welfare subsidies?

        Because they’ve complied with the legal requirements to receive that funding, and so it would be illegal for them to be denied that funding due to an unrelated matter.

        Why is the compromised and illegitimate Supreme Court still in power?

        Because impeaching a member of the Supreme Court requires a charge be brought by the US House of Representatives, and the Senate needs to vote to convict (2/3 majority, I believe). Y’know, because of the US constitution.

        Why are blue states not sanctioning fascist states?

        Because they don’t have the legal authority to do so.

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          they could and should pack the court but I suspect until there is a firmer majority in the senate there will be a couple democrats that will happily accept republican donor money to stop it.

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            They should not, because when Republicans win in the future–and they will–Republicans will do the same thing.

            OTOH, if they take the house and retain the senate, I think that impeaching Thomas is perfectly reasonable, and you could make a pretty solid claim for impeaching Kavanaugh for lying as well.

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              Impeaching thomas takes a far larger majority and, guess what republicans already run the supreme court so if they pack it later we just end up back in the current situation. It only requires a simple majority in the senate to pack the court.

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        They might fight harder if excuse spamming leftwashed centrists like you didn’t practice the “vote once ever then hibernate as if everything should be fixed” activism you accuse liberals of doing

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        Can someone who is good with politics explain to me why Dems are not fighting back against the slide into fascism?

        Because the neoliberals in charge of the party don’t really mind fascism as long as they can make deals with the fascists to preserve their own power.

        Just like the Italian liberals sat out the battle between the original fascists, the also quite far right monarchists and the anarchists, socialists and other ridiculously outnumbered and outgunned left wing groups.

        Until it became clear who was going to win. Then they allied with the fascists.

        Today’s neoliberals talk a big game about a women’s right to bodily autonomy when there’s donations and votes in it, but the ones in charge don’t ACTUALLY care. At least not enough to actually DO something to codify Roe v Wade into law during the almost 30 years that it was being threatened.

        They DEFINITELY care a LOT more about “bipartisanship”, which is de facto negotiating with fascists so that their owner donors won’t be inconvenienced by what they pretend to be trying to do.

        I’d say it’s all bread and circuses, but there’s not even much bread left for regular people to survive on.