Lol, you’re an idiot. I am a skilled worker. You couldn’t do my job to save your life.

I think you’re taking the terms too literally. Unskilled labor doesn’t actually mean the jobs require zero skill. It means they can be learned and mastered relatively quickly compared to other jobs. I’ve had many jobs and I’ve done both skilled and unskilled labor.

When I worked in retail I was able to learn the job in a day and master it in a month. For my current job as a software engineer I’ve been learning for over a decade and there’s still a lot I don’t know. The technology changes rapidly and you have to be constantly learning to keep up. I’m significantly better at my job now than I was when I only had 5 years of experience.

That said, ironically it’s people that work in skilled jobs that are generally the biggest advocates of social policies for the good of all. I believe everyone should have all of their basic needs met just for existing, and I would gladly pay more taxes to contribute to that goal.

Nobody is arguing that a grocery stocker requires less skill and training than brain surgery. Literally nobody. And yet you people repeat this idea over and over.

We know you aren’t arguing that every job requires the exact same degree of skill. All that we want to do is say that there are jobs whose required skills are quick to acquire and are therefore easily replaceable. Meanwhile, there are other jobs whose skills take a long time to acquire and are not easily replaceable. We use the term “unskilled labor” to refer to the former group and “skilled labor” to refer to the latter group as a point of convention. When people claim that unskilled labor doesn’t exist, they imply that every single job requires skills that are slow to obtain and therefore every worker is difficult to replace, which is clearly false.

I mean this not as an attack on you but a chance to expand your worldview. Cognitive dissonance hurts, and it’s important to recognize when it’s happening so you can ask further questions.

Where is the cognitive dissonance? Where is the contradiction in distinguishing between jobs that require trained applicants and jobs that don’t require trained applicants?

There is no such thing as an “unskilled worker” because all jobs require skill. It’s called human skill, and it’s what enables us to build societies greater than the sum of its citizens.

If you decide to use “skilled worker” to mean a worker who has a skill, then you are correct that “unskilled workers” do not exist. Unfortunately, that’s not what the phrase “skilled worker” means. If that’s how you use the term, then you’re talking about something different to everyone else.

The logical conclusion you are suggesting is that because some humans are less capable, they don’t deserve basic needs such as a home, reliable transportation, internet, food, utilities, etc.

The logical conclusion of “unskilled labor exists” is simply that unskilled labor exists. You cannot jump from the observation that “unskilled labor exists” to the claim that “some people don’t deserve their basic needs.” It’s a non sequitur, and it’s not a position anyone in this thread would support.

And if your basic premise starts with the notion that society should not be meeting the basic needs of its people, then there’s only one thing that would convince you anyway.

This is a straw man. No one here has expressed the position that society shouldn’t meet the basic needs of its people. The position you are arguing against is the position that some jobs require training before hiring and others don’t. Again, that’s just what people mean when they refer to skilled labor and unskilled labor.